DASA and I against Genocide

Originally posted by deenny
How can you claim that that vedic society is peaceful and happy and then extol violence towards any one who desents. I am amazed that you claim that people who taugh evolution would be "dealt with". There is plenty of evidence which supports this theory and why you feel so in fear of it is beyond me. Open your mind just a little bit
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When the government executes a murderer/rapist........is the government sinful or considered evil/violent?

Originally posted by Dasa
When the government executes a murderer/rapist........is the government sinful or considered evil/violent?

Personally I am against capital punishment, in all situations and for any or all crimes. Murderers and rapists should go to prison.

Apart from murder and rape, what other crimes would you punish with the death penalty?

Originally posted by FMF
Personally I am against capital punishment, in all situations and for any or all crimes. Murderers and rapists should go to prison.

Apart from murder and rape, what other crimes would you punish with the death penalty?

Terrific.....

85% of violent criminals when released from prison re-offend.

Locking up all these persons costs billions...........and all wasted funds under the banner of false compassion by people who don't know what to do - and what to do.

Vedic government is perfect - because persons terminated are freed from their sinful Karma when taking their next birth.........but otherwise your way - to be left to live out their miserable lives they still have to be rewarded bad karma when they are given their next life.

Persons who are ignorant do not know this......and the Vedic method is truly compassionate - allowing the offender to be bad karma free next life.

Truly fmf Vedic teachings are perfect having the infinite perspective of everything.

Originally posted by Dasa
Terrific.....

85% of violent criminals when released from prison re-offend.

Locking up all these persons costs billions...........and all wasted funds under the banner of false compassion by people who don't know what to do - and what to do.

Vedic government is perfect - because persons terminated are freed from their sinful Karma when taking their nex ...[text shortened]... t life.

Truly fmf Vedic teachings are perfect having the infinite perspective of everything.

Dasa, you don't have any credibility anymore. Why try to convince your readers that you know more than others? Who cares what you say? You are a liar. You've showed it, together with your ignorance too many times already.

Originally posted by Dasa
85% of violent criminals when released from prison re-offend.

Locking up all these persons costs billions...........and all wasted funds under the banner of false compassion by people who don't know what to do - and what to do.

Vedic government is perfect - because persons terminated are freed from their sinful Karma when taking their next birth.........b ...[text shortened]... t life.

Truly fmf Vedic teachings are perfect having the infinite perspective of everything.

I know full well the arguments in favour of capital punishment, Dasa. But I am not a supporter of it. I do not give my consent to a government to execute fellow citizens, no matter what crime they commit. This is something you should take to the Debates Forum, perhaps.

But while it is being discussed here, apart from murder and rape, what other crimes would you punish with the death penalty?

Originally posted by Dasa
Do you believe giving your son false knowledge is offensive?

And do you believe someone is offensive for informing you that you are doing it?

People can believe anything they like (and they do) .....as long as they don't teach falsity to others especially in a structured format and especially to children.

If a science person does not know (how he is ex ...[text shortened]... ctrine fabricated by a false teacher who was delusional and violent and void of true knowledge.

OK, I understand your views about me.

Two final questions:

1) Do you agree that not all adult Muslim men should be put to death?

2) What instead should happen to these men?

If you answer these questions carefully, you will be able to clarify your position.

Originally posted by Dasa
When the government executes a murderer/rapist........is the government sinful or considered evil/violent?

YES any government that executes people is both evil, violent, and uncivilised.

And yes, this does apply the the USA.

And answer my question from my last post...

"Just to be clear...

How would people teaching evolution and or Atheists be 'dealt with' in Vedic society?

What kind of 'reprisals' would they expect from teaching children that we descend from apes?"

(and RJHinds I am asking dasa, a non-Christian, this question. Thus I am even less likely than usual
to give a monkeys what the bible says. I want to know what dasa meant in the post I am copying in
below, I don't care what you have to say about it.)

" In Vedic society all violent individuals and groups are dealt with swiftly and permanently.

In this way the Government does its job properly and the people are happy.

It goes without saying ....that in Vedic society there is hardly any criminals, but not mainly because of Capital punishment - but because society is taught true spiritual knowledge and are genuinely peaceful and loving.

Civilized society does not tolerate violent behaviour from individuals or groups.

This is proper Government.

Civilized society never allows falsity to be taught to the public arena - in a structured organized teaching format.

If evolution had been taught by madmen in Vedic times - they would have been dealt with.

Modern day freedom of speech has taken civil libity to absurd levels - that today anyone can teach children that they have come from apes without reprisal...........this is the ignorant times we all live in.

Today atheistic parents abuse their own children by giving them false knowledge.

False religion does the same thing.......and it all comes under the constitutional law of freedom of speech - which now should be called freedom of ignorance.

After the Vedic period ended......All this changed when mankind entered the Kali Yuga 5000 years ago.

The Kali Yuga is the time cycle which attracts the worst of living beings......from other places in the cosmos (there are unlimited universes in the cosmos)

We live in times when anyone can have a dream and start a new religion over-night (absurd).......and the ignorant people accept it.

False science has taught half the people of the world that life is chemicals ( this is criminal, absurd, foolish and dishonest)

Vedic religion is the only true religion.....always was and always will be. "

Originally posted by RJHinds
Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His
disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares
of the field.”

He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the
Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the
kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The en ...[text shortened]... n the kingdom
of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

(Mathew 13:36-43 NKJV)

Yes because in a Vedic society it would definitely be the Christian god that dealt with things...

I asked a non-Christian what HE meant in HIS post.... what on earth made YOU think that
quoting some biblical nonsense at me was in any way relevant or on any possible spectrum
of reasonable answers to the question?

Originally posted by Dasa
Do you believe giving your son false knowledge is offensive?

And do you believe someone is offensive for informing you that you are doing it?

People can believe anything they like (and they do) .....as long as they don't teach falsity to others especially in a structured format and especially to children.

If a science person does not know (how he is ex ...[text shortened]... ctrine fabricated by a false teacher who was delusional and violent and void of true knowledge.

First, I do realise as others have said that it is a waste of time talking to you, but I have some time on my hands so here goes.
Yes, I do find it offensive that you decide that the knowledge that this person is giving to his son is false.
Surely it is people who claim that what they believe is the facts are the ones who need to be a little humble. (Yes I am talking about you).
Why are you so threatened by the theory that we are desended from other animals.
I think anyone who would blindly believe these people who start religions based on dreams and old books they have come across are foolish, but that is their choice and let them at it.
It seems from what you say that Vedic also believe in violence.

Originally posted by Dasa
Your comments are baseless, and are founded on a platform of spiritual ignorance.

I could go through one point at a time to explain to you why.............but first you would have to find honesty in your heart - so as to recognize the truth in my comments.

I gave an acid test a while ago to show how one can determine true religion from false.......do you agree with that test?

The answer to this will determine if you are honest.

Your test for true religion is that the person agree with you. That test would only show them to be unthinking twats

Originally posted by Dasa
Your comments are baseless, and are founded on a platform of spiritual ignorance.

I could go through one point at a time to explain to you why.............but first you would have to find honesty in your heart - so as to recognize the truth in my comments.

I gave an acid test a while ago to show how one can determine true religion from false.......do you agree with that test?

The answer to this will determine if you are honest.

I refer the gentleman tp my comments to your previous post

Originally posted by Dasa
When the government executes a murderer/rapist........is the government sinful or considered evil/violent?

We are not talking about murderers/Rapist. We are about people who teach evolution. Or in your eyes are they the same thing

Originally posted by Dasa
Terrific.....

85% of violent criminals when released from prison re-offend.

Locking up all these persons costs billions...........and all wasted funds under the banner of false compassion by people who don't know what to do - and what to do.

Vedic government is perfect - because persons terminated are freed from their sinful Karma when taking their nex ...[text shortened]... t life.

Truly fmf Vedic teachings are perfect having the infinite perspective of everything.

As others have stated this is best discussed in the Debate forum

Originally posted by FMF
Personally I am against capital punishment, in all situations and for any or all crimes. Murderers and rapists should go to prison.

Apart from murder and rape, what other crimes would you punish with the death penalty?

Personally, I am for capital pumishment.
Abortion is actually the same as murders.

Originally posted by FMF
I know full well the arguments in favour of capital punishment, Dasa. But I am not a supporter of it. I do not give my consent to a government to execute fellow citizens, no matter what crime they commit. This is something you should take to the Debates Forum, perhaps.

But while it is being discussed here, apart from murder and rape, what other crimes would you punish with the death penalty?

This kind of liberal attitude among so many people today is one reason
we have so much evil in the world. We must make strong efforts to
eliminate all evil.