2 edits
Dasa, forget the red herrings about you being "misunderstood" and what you meant being "obvious". It'll dog you for months. Numerous people here READ THE THREAD. You're playing your hand as if what was in the thread and what it clearly meant is still a matter of debate. You cannot claim you were "misunderstood". Just offer a complete and unconditional apology: it's the only way you have any hope of redeeming yourself after injudiciously dragging this forum down to - perhaps, arguably - its lowest amd most depraved depths ever. Just apologize, Dasa. It's the only way.
1 edit
Originally posted by BartsAnother wobbly one that Dasa cannot wriggle out of by simply declaring he was "misunderstood" is why would there be any provision in Dasa's proposed er... 'obviously not a genocide'... for "Muslims converting to other religions at the eleventh hour would not be accepted" [as he put it, verbatim] if they were guilty of "rape, plunder, bomb, murder and pillage"? How would them converting to non-Muslim religions have any mitigating effect at all on crimes like "rape, plunder, bomb, murder and pillage"? It doesn't make any sense unless Dasa WAS proposing a genocide of all Muslim men.
Then what was that part about the women ? Women who rape, plunder, bomb, murder and pillage in the name of Allah can still prove themselves worthy to live, but men can't ?
1 edit
Originally posted by DasaYour post was clear, it was made clear by your proposed treatment of innocent women and children. Indoctrinating them away from Islam, and of course removing generations of Muslim fathers. You seem unaware of how you go in that direction.
Thankyou for clearing that up RJHinds.
When I say Muslim men........it goes without saying that I mean violent Muslim men who rape, plunder, bomb, murder and pillage in the name of Allah.
I admit I was not clear about this in my first post....... believing it would be obvious.
No one else created it, but you. You created this perception NOT by being unclear, but by having a history of clearly stated hatred and vitriol and contempt toward all whose religious choice -- if it is a choice -- differs from yours. together with extreme exceptionalism for your own ideology.
You were starting off in that direction again, when you came back.
Originally posted by FMFWhy then was it clear to me that he was talking about the terrorist Muslims
Well you were absolutely crystal clear in the thread that was deleted. You advocated genocide in unequivocal terms, for which you owe everybody an apology, at least to my way of thinking.
That you now seek to retract your proposal for genocide is to be welcomed.
But a forthright apology for what you clearly and obviously said in the Dec19th thread called " ...[text shortened]... have ever seen on this web site. Dozens of people have seen the thread. You need to apologize.
and not advocating genocide on peace loving Muslims?
- Joined
- 31 May 06
- Moves
- 1795
Originally posted by RJHindsThe list of things that are blindingly obvious to everyone but you is too long to fit.
Why then was it clear to me that he was talking about the terrorist Muslims
and not advocating genocide on peace loving Muslims?
Suffice it to say we can just add this to the list.
What Dasa said was clear and unequivocal.
1 edit
Originally posted by RJHindsNothing was "clear" to you because you did not read the thread. Now that you know what was in the thread, and several posters have confirmed it, it says a lot about you and your posting style that you are still claiming that Dasa was not advocating genocide against all Muslim men for being Muslims. What he said and meant could hardly have been clearer, regardless of how he is backpeddling now.
Why then was it clear to me that he was talking about the terrorist Muslims
and not advocating genocide on peace loving Muslims?
I do not know what makes you post the things you do, RJHinds, and what makes you ignore what virtually everybody else has said on this matter, and ignore the fundamental ways in which Dasa's attempted explanation does not add up. I don't know what motivates you to play along with Dasa and to be playing the role that you are playing in this, one of the forum's darkest episodes.
It is your prerogative to have whatever fun you want, I suppose, in whatever manner you choose. But don't expect to be taken seriously. Don't expect to be able to command any respect. And don't expect to ever truly recover from backing Dasa when what he actually said has been revealed for what it actually was and has been read - and understood - by so many fellow posters.
Originally posted by Rank outsiderIt was clear that he was referring the mindset or viewpoint of these
You are more generous than I would be.
Destroying all Muslims engaged in this activity would not eradicate Islam from the world, which was Dasa's stated intent. His subsequent post acknowledges that not all Muslims engage in this type of practice. Therefore, if his original post was intended to refer to a subset of Muslims, then there is no need to ...[text shortened]... onder what the Vedas recommend in this type of position, and how it compares to what Dasa does?
radical, extremist, jehadists leaders and teachers of Islam. Those
interpretations of the beliefs of Islam should be eradicated from
the world. These leaders of the Islamic religion were presenting
Islam as a religion of hate and war and not one of peace and love.
So if it is true then Islam must be eradicated. If it is not a religion
of hate and war then those groups claiming the right to do violence
in the name of Islam must be eradicated or changed. We can not
have it both ways.
Originally posted by RJHindsIt was absolutely clear - as has been confirmed by a dozen or more fellow posters who have read the thread - that he was specifically and explicitly referring to all Muslim men, specifically and explicitly without exception. One wonders why you post the stuff you post.
It was clear that he was referring the mindset or viewpoint of these
radical, extremist, jehadists leaders and teachers of Islam. Those
interpretations of the beliefs of Islam should be eradicated from
the world. These leaders of the Islamic religion were presenting
Islam as a religion of hate and war and not one of peace and love.
So if it is true th ...[text shortened]... do violence
in the name of Islam must be eradicated or changed. We can not
have it both ways.
Originally posted by FMFBecause people like you are lying about what Dasa meant by what he said.
It was absolutely clear - as has been confirmed by a dozen or more fellow posters who have read the thread - that he was specifically and explicitly referring to all Muslim men, specifically and explicitly without exception. One wonders why you post the stuff you post.
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat is meant by what Dasa said is contained in the words that Dasa chose to use. People have read them. And his "retraction" does not add up. One wonders what motivates you to be playing the clumsy and ugly role you are playing in all this.
Because people like you are lying about what Dasa meant by what he said.
Originally posted by JS357Nor did Dasa mention "leaders and teachers" of Islam. Nor did he differentiate between, or even allude to there being, "interpretations" of Islam. Nor did he use the words "terrorist" or "jihad", not even once. And he only used the word "innocent" once and it was when he said "Genocide is only applicable when the persons are innocent. Islam is not innocent...".
He did not recognize the existence of any peace-loving Muslims.
edit: That's why.
Originally posted by RJHindsDasa's claim that he was "misunderstood" does not add up at all, as has been pointed out - with specific reference to what he specifically said - by several posters. He has yet to answer these questions. Your role in all this does not reflect upon you well.
Dasa just stated I was right, did you misunderstand what he said again?