31 Dec 07
Originally posted by SwissGambitThat is a simple statement, I can say a 300 dollar fine for a simple
"Being" was the wrong word. What I meant is that eternal punishment for actions committed within the finite lifespan [b]here on earth is unjust.[/b]
speeding ticket is unjust too, what does that get me? It gets me
time in jail if I don't pay the fine no matter what I think about it.
Kelly
31 Dec 07
Originally posted by SwissGambitSince I have tried to be honest with you, can you try to be with me? If you were God, how would you have done things differently? For example, would you have given your creation the freedom to defy you? If so, they would run things amock in terms of how you wanted them originally and screw it all up to a certain degree. Would it not be a similiar situation that we have now?
Thanks for the honest answer.
[b]As for myself, I want to be the one reaching out in hope. If there is no hope I never want to know about it.
To me, your worldview is the epitome of hopelessness. If I would hope for anything, it is that your God does not exist, and there is no hell for the majority of the human race to burn in.[/b]
31 Dec 07
Originally posted by whodeyOooh Oooh! I know one. Someone comes up to you at work and asks "where's your boss? I'm going to cut his black heart out and eat it in front of his dying eyes." I think you'd be quite justified in lying in that instance. This could be expanded to include: lying under torture, lying to stop a worse sin from occuring, and of course, answering your wife that she certainly "does not look fat in that dress."
Name a justifiable sin.
01 Jan 08
Originally posted by KellyJayHow about a $100,000 fine for a speeding ticket? What would the response be then?
That is a simple statement, I can say a 300 dollar fine for a simple
speeding ticket is unjust too, what does that get me? It gets me
time in jail if I don't pay the fine no matter what I think about it.
Kelly
"Oh well. Guess I'd better mortgage the house so I don't go to jail." 😛
Eternal hell isn't just some minor injustice that can be shrugged off.
01 Jan 08
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Originally posted by whodeyIf I'm God, I start things out with only people in heaven. Everyone has free will, yet is enlightened enough not to choose evil. Voila. No suffering.
Since I have tried to be honest with you, can you try to be with me? If you were God, how would you have done things differently? For example, would you have given your creation the freedom to defy you? If so, they would run things amock in terms of how you wanted them originally and screw it all up to a certain degree. Would it not be a similiar situation that we have now?
05 Jan 08
Originally posted by SwissGambitThat is the point I guess, what is minor and justice, you have your
How about a $100,000 fine for a speeding ticket? What would the response be then?
"Oh well. Guess I'd better mortgage the house so I don't go to jail." 😛
Eternal hell isn't just some minor injustice that can be shrugged off.
views on what reality should be as if you created it and maintained
it, and God has His as if He created it and maintained it.
Kelly
05 Jan 08
Originally posted by scottishinnz2/3 of those in Heaven didn't sin in the beginning, and they all had
He said they have free will. He also said they are clever.
Do you have problems reading?
the same will and it was without a doubt free as shown by the choices
made. The paths taken by all are playing out in full too, so not only
do we see will, we see results.
Kelly