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Originally posted by @kellyjayDid John or any of the Apostles use the expression 'my gospel' ?
Like saying the Gospel of John, or according to John? There is no religion of John!
Originally posted by @kellyjayDid John or any of the Apostles use the expression 'my gospel' ?
Like saying the Gospel of John, or according to John? There is no religion of John!
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo if I open a page of the OT at random and start reading from the 8th line down ...
...the whole of the OT was setup the way it was to highlight Jesus’ coming.
Originally posted by @whodeyDid God know that Adam and Eve would eat the fruit?
The difference that you see is the ushering in of a new covenant to deal with sin.
No longer must God destroy the sinner to destroy the sin. That is what the cross was for.
Jesus said that he did not come into the world to destroy the law, but to perfect it.
That is what he did.
If there was no difference, then no real change would have been ushered in.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneBecause if that's true, then the 'God' we're given in the Bible is also nonsense.
Chaney3:
Taken as a whole, the Bible is incoherent and nonsensical. Why don't you simply accept that fact?
Originally posted by @chaney3No one questions a surgeon that kills cancer cells to save the human body. No one complains when the veterinarian kills parasites to save the pet.
If that's true, then Jesus destroyed the human race at the time of Noah. That action is quite different than "coming to save the world, not condemn it".
Doesn't really make sense.
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyYou are equating human beings with parasites and cancer cells?
No one questions a surgeon that kills cancer cells to save the human body. No one complains when the veterinarian kills parasites to save the pet.
Originally posted by @chaney3Why don't you simply keep the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry and jettison everything that is not in lock-step agreement with it? Problem solved.
Because if that's true, then the 'God' we're given in the Bible is also nonsense.
Apart from the Bible, we have no idea who the Creator is.
Originally posted by @rajk999That's what you got, he said "my gospel" and everything done by him,
Did John or any of the Apostles use the expression 'my gospel' ?
Originally posted by @chaney3You do not have a classical Christian view if you were taught that Jesus is a human that is being sacrificed.
There are times when I think that some or most of the Bible stories are just too far fetched to be really true.
God is angry, jealous, and vengeful in the OT, regarding the humans that HE created.
Having to sacrifice and kill a human (Jesus) to save mankind seems unreasonable at times, especially when this sacrifice will only benefit a small percentag ...[text shortened]... fferent than believing in the one(s) given us in the Bible.
Just sharing, in a time of doubt.
Originally posted by @chaney3If you believe this what is your struggle? God is good and allows us to go where we will,
Because if that's true, then the 'God' we're given in the Bible is also nonsense.
Apart from the Bible, we have no idea who the Creator is.
Originally posted by @divegeesterBest typo!
Doug is normal; don’t let it put you off.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneDuring his ministry, while he was on earth, Jesus words included him claiming he was sent by God. Was he correct?
Why don't you simply keep the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry and jettison everything that is not in lock-step agreement with it? Problem solved.
Originally posted by @chaney3Before enlightenment there is doubt . After enlightenment the same. doubt. You just gotta know yourself.
There are times when I think that some or most of the Bible stories are just too far fetched to be really true.
God is angry, jealous, and vengeful in the OT, regarding the humans that HE created.
Having to sacrifice and kill a human (Jesus) to save mankind seems unreasonable at times, especially when this sacrifice will only benefit a small percentag ...[text shortened]... fferent than believing in the one(s) given us in the Bible.
Just sharing, in a time of doubt.