Originally posted by @pudgenikThe ones in the desert were being led and fed by God directly and many still managed to fall away.
Christians have become their own worst enemy, always seeking proof, and not living in faith.
Where has your faith gone. Tell me, what place in the scripture did the Jews go to, to confirm it was of God when they were in the desert for 40 yrs
Originally posted by @pudgenikRight now I would be happy with where did your doctrine come from, you making up as you go, or you are getting it from some source/s?
You will see the proof with your very eyes. you will not die before my task is done
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou didnt answer the question. What scripture did they use to confirm that it was God.
The ones in the desert were being led and fed by God directly and many still managed to fall away.
you cant answer the question because there was none. they did it on faith
and dont you find that interesting, that even though God was directly involved, that many still fell away.
so what makes you think you are better than they, the Jews. If they Jews who recieved from God directly can fall. So too can todays Christians.
Knowing who Jesus is wont save you, only having Jesus in your heart will
Originally posted by @pudgenikThey had God moving actively in their midst and Moses was there writing the scripture, and from time to time they were angry with Moses wanting to do away with him, were upset with God too. You don’t have much of a point here.
You didnt answer the question. What scripture did they use to confirm that it was God.
you cant answer the question because there was none. they did it on faith
and dont you find that interesting, that even though God was directly involved, that many still fell away.
so what makes you think you are better than they, the Jews. If they Jews who rec ...[text shortened]... n todays Christians.
Knowing who Jesus is wont save you, only having Jesus in your heart will
Originally posted by @pudgenikI am not a once saved always saved Christian so having some fall away isn’t surprising to me. Neither does it surprise me that people could fall away with God moving in their midst. Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead and instead of believing they plotted to kill Jesus and Lazarus. The human heart is deceitful and at odds with the Spirit of God.
You didnt answer the question. What scripture did they use to confirm that it was God.
you cant answer the question because there was none. they did it on faith
and dont you find that interesting, that even though God was directly involved, that many still fell away.
so what makes you think you are better than they, the Jews. If they Jews who rec ...[text shortened]... n todays Christians.
Knowing who Jesus is wont save you, only having Jesus in your heart will
Having Christ in our hearts has to be done on His terms not ours!
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Originally posted by @thinkofoneAny logical person would as well 🙂
The hypocrisy and double standards of the positions of the likes of TW and KJ stem from their inability to be honest with themselves and therefore others in how they use the Bible to determine "the will of God" so to speak.
This is true of everyone who claims that on the whole the Bible is sound, coherent and the "inerrant word of God". They use the ...[text shortened]... misogyny, homophobia or what have you.
No wonder you have doubts. Any rational person would.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelCan you get more vague?
There is only one true source. The second one is a falshood
Originally posted by @chaney3Actually, we are gernerally lead to believe that there is a categorical difference between ourselves and the people of Sodom, and we are led to believe that God judges the nations for their actions in general.
The Bible is NOT at all "clear" about most things, so please don't come across as arrogantly understanding all of it.
Your reply doesn't make sense, because you're attempting to brush under the carpet what is blatantly obvious: you say God loves the human race, in one sentence......then you follow that up with how God "eliminates" and "wipes out" those ...[text shortened]... thread is about doubt, and the Bible provides much material to work with to further such doubt.
