Doubt

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Where did this doctrine come from? You make it up, or do you have a source that should be acceptable?

You will see the proof with your very eyes. you will not die before my task is done

Originally posted by @pudgenik
Christians have become their own worst enemy, always seeking proof, and not living in faith.
Where has your faith gone. Tell me, what place in the scripture did the Jews go to, to confirm it was of God when they were in the desert for 40 yrs

The ones in the desert were being led and fed by God directly and many still managed to fall away.

Originally posted by @pudgenik
You will see the proof with your very eyes. you will not die before my task is done

Right now I would be happy with where did your doctrine come from, you making up as you go, or you are getting it from some source/s?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
The ones in the desert were being led and fed by God directly and many still managed to fall away.

You didnt answer the question. What scripture did they use to confirm that it was God.

you cant answer the question because there was none. they did it on faith

and dont you find that interesting, that even though God was directly involved, that many still fell away.

so what makes you think you are better than they, the Jews. If they Jews who recieved from God directly can fall. So too can todays Christians.

Knowing who Jesus is wont save you, only having Jesus in your heart will

Originally posted by @pudgenik
You didnt answer the question. What scripture did they use to confirm that it was God.

you cant answer the question because there was none. they did it on faith

and dont you find that interesting, that even though God was directly involved, that many still fell away.

so what makes you think you are better than they, the Jews. If they Jews who rec ...[text shortened]... n todays Christians.

Knowing who Jesus is wont save you, only having Jesus in your heart will

They had God moving actively in their midst and Moses was there writing the scripture, and from time to time they were angry with Moses wanting to do away with him, were upset with God too. You don’t have much of a point here.

Originally posted by @pudgenik
You didnt answer the question. What scripture did they use to confirm that it was God.

you cant answer the question because there was none. they did it on faith

and dont you find that interesting, that even though God was directly involved, that many still fell away.

so what makes you think you are better than they, the Jews. If they Jews who rec ...[text shortened]... n todays Christians.

Knowing who Jesus is wont save you, only having Jesus in your heart will

I am not a once saved always saved Christian so having some fall away isn’t surprising to me. Neither does it surprise me that people could fall away with God moving in their midst. Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead and instead of believing they plotted to kill Jesus and Lazarus. The human heart is deceitful and at odds with the Spirit of God.

Having Christ in our hearts has to be done on His terms not ours!

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Where did this doctrine come from? You make it up, or do you have a source that should be acceptable?

Mouth worshipers will never understand the teachings of Christ.
This is why Christ said they will hear but never understand.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
The hypocrisy and double standards of the positions of the likes of TW and KJ stem from their inability to be honest with themselves and therefore others in how they use the Bible to determine "the will of God" so to speak.

This is true of everyone who claims that on the whole the Bible is sound, coherent and the "inerrant word of God". They use the ...[text shortened]... misogyny, homophobia or what have you.

No wonder you have doubts. Any rational person would.

Any logical person would as well 🙂

Originally posted by @pudgenik
You will see the proof with your very eyes. you will not die before my task is done

Cool beans!!

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Right now I would be happy with where did your doctrine come from, you making up as you go, or you are getting it from some source/s?

There is only one true source. The second one is a falshood

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
There is only one true source. The second one is a falshood

Can you get more vague?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Can you get more vague?

Thats about as un-vague as I can get.

Originally posted by @chaney3
The Bible is NOT at all "clear" about most things, so please don't come across as arrogantly understanding all of it.

Your reply doesn't make sense, because you're attempting to brush under the carpet what is blatantly obvious: you say God loves the human race, in one sentence......then you follow that up with how God "eliminates" and "wipes out" those ...[text shortened]... thread is about doubt, and the Bible provides much material to work with to further such doubt.

Actually, we are gernerally lead to believe that there is a categorical difference between ourselves and the people of Sodom, and we are led to believe that God judges the nations for their actions in general.

Originally posted by @pudgenik
it is really unfortunate that the christians in todays world have lost thier way. They have forgotten, they are the servants of humanity as well as the stewarts.

And I thought the Stewarts were a historical Scottish ruling dynasty.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
There is only one true source.

What’s that then?