Originally posted by Rajk999I have an idea, but the ideas I have are not always correct I don't like putting words in others
Neither do I follow many of the other threads but you must have an idea what Christians generally believe.
mouths, because I can be wrong. We typically will spell out what we think given enough
time.
Originally posted by Rajk999And to you, every single one of them is wrong, and you are right.
Neither do I follow many of the other threads but you must have an idea what Christians generally believe.
This is why I maintain that you are a hypocrite when you say "Follow Jesus!!!" and you can't even do so yourself.
Originally posted by Rajk999
After a discussion with Manny in the thread "Jesus saves VS works", I cant help but notice how so many Christians cherry pick the Bible with the aim of extracting the most favourable doctrine that suits their fancy [or personal situation] which I summarise and paraphrase below:
- I profess I believe in Christ therefore Im saved eternally
- Not even God ...[text shortened]... ding to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. (Php 3:20-21)[/b]
- that if you sin wilfully after knowing the truth there is no more sacrifice for sins
Let's use the example of a drug user. Are you saying that if a drug user comes to Jesus and slips up and uses again after he confessed his sins is now doomed? Even if he repents once again? Please clarify.
Wouldn't that be a tough pill to swallow. I imagine there is not one who has not sinned once coming to the knowledge. I would like to understand your point more on this, thanks.
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Originally posted by yoctobyteI hate swallowing pills.- that if you sin wilfully after knowing the truth there is no more sacrifice for sins
Let's use the example of a drug user. Are you saying that if a drug user comes to Jesus and slips up and uses again after he confessed his sins is now doomed? Even if he repents once again? Please clarify.
Wouldn't that be a tough pill to swallow. ...[text shortened]... inned once coming to the knowledge. I would like to understand your point more on this, thanks.
Stick to the crack pipe.
Originally posted by yoctobyteIs taking drugs a sin? Never knew that.- that if you sin wilfully after knowing the truth there is no more sacrifice for sins
Let's use the example of a drug user. Are you saying that if a drug user comes to Jesus and slips up and uses again after he confessed his sins is now doomed? Even if he repents once again? Please clarify.
Wouldn't that be a tough pill to swallow. ...[text shortened]... inned once coming to the knowledge. I would like to understand your point more on this, thanks.
In any event I cannot comment on what Christ would do? I am just pointing out what the bible says.
Is this the reference :
1. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. (Heb 6:4-8)
Christ decides who falls away. Im not sure your drug user example is applicable here.
In the US crack, cocaine, meth, heroin are all illegal. Are you saying that if an addict is delivered from any one or all of these drugs through repentance and slips up and uses again, he has sinned and thus cannot be forgiven again?
Would using these drugs in the US constitute a sin?
Originally posted by Rajk999Who could be left? Have you ever sinned once you came to the knowledge?
Is taking drugs a sin? Never knew that.
In any event I cannot comment on what Christ would do? I am just pointing out what the bible says.
Is this the reference :
1. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, a ...[text shortened]... -8)
Christ decides who falls away. Im not sure your drug user example is applicable here.
Originally posted by yoctobyteNo in my opinion
In the US crack, cocaine, meth, heroin are all illegal. Are you saying that if an addict is delivered from any one or all of these drugs through repentance and slips up and uses again, he has sinned and thus cannot be forgiven again?
Would using these drugs in the US constitute a sin?
Originally posted by Rajk999How about this, let's look at it this way. Can a man repent and come to Jesus, and then fall into sin again... then repent again of the same sins and then be free for good and have eternal life?
I do not respond to questions of a personal nature, and I respect your privacy enough not to ask you questions of personal nature.
Can you just discuss the bible without getting personal?
Originally posted by yoctobyteChrist decides that, but the Bible is very clear.. Christ does not like that.
How about this, let's look at it this way. Can a man repent and come to Jesus, and then fall into sin again... then repent again of the same sins and then be free for good and have eternal life?
I cannot decide on what Christ would do. I don't understand why you keep asking the same thing. Is the bible not clear?