Originally posted by galveston75Yours hopefully; you home wrecking, scripture spewing moronodon.
Thats pretty obvious and then they get mad because we actually do what the Bible says to do. Sounds like the Bible is pricking a conscience or two and they don't like the feel of that....
You will probably need to go into a corner and have a chat with your girlfriend now, say hello to robbie for me.
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Originally posted by kevcvs57so lets get this, how is it that we are not following Jesus, you have claimed it, which
I did not see one hate thread from Divegeester, produce it or run the risk being labeled a liar, again.
" Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves (Gospel of Matthew 7:15, King James Version). The sermon then suggests that their true nature will be revealed by their actions (by their fruits be following Jesus but if it walks like a thug, and talks like a thug, it's probably a thug.
particular teaching of Jesus have we abandoned, you have not said, so either you are
1.making an accusation without substantiation
2.you dont actually know and are simply ignorant
3.you think that because you claim something its actually true
now these could lead to proof of you being, a liar, an ignoramus and a self important
pompous pontificate of your own opinions, possibly all three, so again, how is it that
we are not following Jesus, you have claimed it, where is your evidence and proof of.
Self certified opinions and pontifications from a room full of mirrors will not do, so
where is your evidence? Terming someone a thug is not evidence, its an abusive
statement, so where is your evidence?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie"The world will hate what is not it's own".... We don't claim the world and what it offers or want to be a part of it so the world hates us.
so lets get this, how is it that we are not following Jesus, you have claimed it, which
particular teaching of Jesus have we abandoned, you have not said, so either you are
1.making an accusation without substantiation
2.you dont actually know and are simply ignorant
3.you think that because you claim something its actually true
now these c ...[text shortened]... Terming someone a thug is not evidence, its an abusive
statement, so where is your evidence?
That in itself would not bring the hate that is offered to us but we were told to preach a message that not many will want to hear and it would even cause divisions within families even to the extent of "brother killing brother." Cain and Able was the first example of what serving God in a way that others do not approve, can do.
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Originally posted by galveston75Meh i just go and do something pleasant, divesgeester, Rajk, kev57 have nothing of
"The world will hate what is not it's own".... We don't claim the world and what it offers or want to be a part of it so the world hates us.
That in itself would not bring the hate that is offered to us but we were told to preach a message that not many will want to hear and it would even cause divisions within families even to the extent of "brother ble was the first example of what serving God in a way that others do not approve, can do.
any worth to say to us. The fact of the matter is,
1.Christ stated that a christians enemies would be persons of his own household, not
that a Christian desires this, but that either through disbelief or some other avenue
as in the case of disfellowshipping, they make themselves our enemies.
2. The procedure is well documented and readily discernible from, scripture, the fact
that they ignore it, is their business, we are the ones receiving Gods blessing for
remaining loyal to those principles.
3. The Bible itself states that there are persons who are mentally diseased,
(1 Timothy 6:4-5) . . .but being mentally diseased over questionings and debates
about words. From these things spring envy, strife, abusive speeches, wicked
suspicions, violent disputes about trifles on the part of men corrupted in mind and
despoiled of the truth, . . .
what this means i am not quite sure, perhaps they are lacking in judgement or
corrupted in mind, i dunno, but certainly, divesgeester and Rajk, all they can
produce is strife, abusive speeches and disputes about trifles, so i simply ignore
them and do something pleasant instead. It works great, you should try it 🙂
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Originally posted by galveston75Gman, slowly walk away from the PC, take a deep breath and think of The Paradise
Are you not reading the previous postings we've made? I don't think your that dumb are you?
earth, building your own home, playing with your great great great great grandchildren
and then think of the enmity that divesgeester, kev57 and Rajk have caused with their
articles taken out of context accompanied by lies from articles that they have never
read, and then think of how they two scenarios made you feel. People always
remember how we made them feel. 😀
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieHere is a good test of who are the creators of strife and enmity. Ask yourself how many of these things can you honestly say.
Gman, slowly walk away from the PC, take a deep breath and think of The Paradise
earth, building your own home, playing with your great great great great grandchildren
and then think of the enmity that divesgeester, kev57 and Rajk have caused with their
articles taken out of context accompanied by lies from articles that they have never
read, ...[text shortened]... nk of how they two scenarios made you feel. People always
remember how we made them feel. 😀
If I had my own church :
1. I would never ever under any circumstances dis-fellowhship any one. I would leave the judgement to Christ.
2. I would never advise member to avoid contact with any other member regardless of their beliefs or their conduct.
3. I would encourage family members to stay together and on peaceful terms notwithstanding their religious affiliations. All family members do not need to be JWs.
4. I would do those things because I believe that the household of faith of Christ is made up of people from all Christian denominations, because Christ is not interested in nitpicking over petty differences in doctrines but looks at the heart and mind looks at peoples capacity to do good works and love one another. Petty disputes about doctrine is a purely man-made habit designed to separate Christians and create disunity.
Can you Robbie or you Galveston say any of the above? NO? Then you people are the purveyors of disunity and strife and enmity between Christians.
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Originally posted by Rajk999there is no disunity among us, one world wide united and happy family. Sure ignore
Here is a good test of who are the creators of strife and enmity. Ask yourself how many of these things can you honestly say.
[quote] If I had my own church :
1. I would never ever under any circumstances dis-fellowhship any one. I would leave the judgement to Christ.
2. I would never advise member to avoid contact with any other member regardle ...[text shortened]... ove? NO? Then you people are the purveyors of disunity and strife and enmity between Christians.
the Bibles counsel establish your own criteria, I can see you and divesgeester, heads
shaved, orange smock, pinging a triangle, come and join the church or Rajgeester,
ping ping! Go away and learn what these verses mean.
(John 7:18) . . .He that speaks of his own originality is seeking his own glory; but he
that seeks the glory of him that sent him, this one is true, and there is no
unrighteousness in him. . .
(1 Corinthians 4:6) . . .“Do not go beyond the things that are written,” in order that
you may not be puffed up individually in favour of the one against the other.
(1 Timothy 6:3-4) If any man teaches other doctrine and does not assent to
healthful words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, nor to the teaching that accords with
godly devotion, he is puffed up [with pride], not understanding anything, but being
mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words.. . .
(Matthew 10:34-37) . . .Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to
put, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his
father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-
in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household. He that has
greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that
has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.
(Matthew 12:48-50) . . .As an answer he said to the one telling him: “Who is my
mother, and who are my brothers?” And extending his hand toward his disciples he
said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father
who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
(1 Corinthians 5:11) . . .But now I am writing you to quit mixing in company with
anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a
reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.
(1 Corinthians 5:13) . . .“Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.”