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Originally posted by apathist
Give her another shot at that. It is not fun to be blindsided.
She is not being blindsided at all. It has been a talking point here for years. Here was a recent exchange about the matter: Thread 172223 pages 11-12.


Originally posted by apathist
Yes. I an not comfortable opposing that. But they are not offering truth. Sometimes truth should be hidden. But basic understanding of reality?
I don't have your reservations about it and certainly would not want anything of this nature to be "hidden". This is as good an arena as any for the discussion of competing takes on reality.

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Originally posted by FMF
Thread 172223 pages 11-12.
Oh. That was unpleasant. There is no point in searching and talking about it. There is just a disease that needs excised.


Nobody knows what happens when we die. We can try to figure it out based on knowledge. But the abrahamic religions rely on prophesies and revelations. I wonder sometimes what jones or koresh wanted to say, but that wondering is built around what is wrong with you people. Gods should be clear and obvious, and not dependent on opinion.


Unless of course the secrecy is intended. So what kind of people is the secret god looking for?


Sheep. The bible says so. The christian gods want us as a resource.

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Originally posted by apathist
That was unpleasant. There is no point in searching and talking about it.
If there is "no point talking about it" so be it, but you then also call it "just a disease that needs excised", so for me you have a disconnect right there and so I don't see how you can have any discourse with proponents of torturer god theology. Their ghastly definitions of "perfect justice" and "ultimate morality" - manifesting themselves in never ending torture - are elephants in the room.


Originally posted by FMF
If there is "no point talking about it" so be it, but you then also call it "just a disease that needs excised", so for me you have a disconnect right there and so I don't see how you can have any discourse with proponents of torturer god theology. Their ghastly definitions of "perfect justice" and "ultimate morality" - manifesting themselves in never ending torture - are elephants in the room
I will try to dial it down. I have made a decision, though, and will no longer accept the christian view. It needs to be opposed.


Originally posted by apathist
Sheep. The bible says so. The christian gods want us as a resource.
Resource? God does not need anything. Once again you have no clue.


Originally posted by KellyJayResource? God does not need anything. Once again you have no clue.
Has your god spoken to you? Why are you afraid of that question.


Originally posted by KellyJay
Resource? God does not need anything. Once again you have no clue.
"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God” Exodus 20:4-5

If God does not need anything from man, what is the cause of his jealousy?

(And please don't tender the argument that jealously actually meant zealousness).


Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God” Exodus 20:4-5

If God does not need anything from man, what is the cause of his jealousy?

(And please don't tender the argument that jealously actually meant zealousness).
KJ was asking how do people know that Christians don't know they bible... here is some proof right here


Originally posted by apathist
Has your god spoken to you? Why are you afraid of that question.
What does God need? He created the universe and everything in it, it all belongs to Him. You don't have a clue what you are talking about once again. Why would I be afraid of any question?

Yes God is really apart of my life, when He became my Lord and Savior He has been there for me and my family. He has taken us through very good times and very bad ones, He is faithful.


Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God” Exodus 20:4-5

If God does not need anything from man, what is the cause of his jealousy?

(And please don't tender the argument that jealously actually meant zealousness).
Reality is important to God since He is the only God, so anything we replace Him with is a lie. Also since some of our spiritual enemies pose as (g)ods it is for our protection from the Demonic that hates us, and when we replace God with gods of our own making, gods of wood and stone, we and He loses a relationship with each other. Since He is the One and only true God He protects His family from harm, which losing our relationship with Him causes.


Originally posted by apathist
I will try to dial it down. I have made a decision, though, and will no longer accept the christian view. It needs to be opposed.
What is the Christian view?