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    I don't know how the Bible addresses the issue of free will, but my understanding is that we are all given the choice to do either good or bad with that choice. God, of course, wants us to choose good.

    But.....if we choose to do bad, and our actions will harm an innocent person, how can God stop it? If He stops it, then by default He has impeded upon our choice.

    (I could obviously be wrong, but it's a slippery slope to start suggesting that God will interfere with one man's choice to protect another, but let another man commit evil and hurt someone using his choice)
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    @chaney3 said
    I don't know how the Bible addresses the issue of free will, but my understanding is that we are all given the choice to do either good or bad with that choice. God, of course, wants us to choose good.

    But.....if we choose to do bad, and our actions will harm an innocent person, how can God stop it? If He stops it, then by default He has impeded upon our choice.

    (I coul ...[text shortened]... man's choice to protect another, but let another man commit evil and hurt someone using his choice)
    You choose how you are going to respond, even a TV commercial influences your
    choices. Buy this, look at that person, get rich, all of these things push and pull at
    you, but you choose. An honest man finding a wallet with money and ID will not
    keep it but return it, a caring person will meet a need. Whatever it is we sow that
    shall we reap, you want to be a better person you start changing your ways, you
    want God you seek Him, you don't you won't.
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    @chaney3 said.
    But.....if we choose to do bad, and our actions will harm an innocent person, how can God stop it?
    With supernatural intervention.
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    @divegeester said
    With supernatural intervention.
    Why did you exclude the 2nd sentence of the paragraph you quoted? I seriously do NOT like the cherry picking, and picking apart of someone's context with a point.
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    @chaney3 said
    Why did you exclude the 2nd sentence of the paragraph you quoted? I seriously do NOT like the cherry picking, and picking apart of someone's context with a point.
    I answered the only question in your post.
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    @divegeester said
    I answered the only question in your post.
    If God gives us free will, I don't think that He intrudes on our use of that free will.

    If He did, wouldn't He stop a suicide?
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    @chaney3 said
    If God gives us free will, I don't think that He intrudes on our use of that free will.
    You are basing this on what?
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    @chaney3 said

    If He did, wouldn't He stop a suicide?
    Bad things happen everyday.
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    @divegeester said
    You are basing this on what?
    At this moment, I have nothing Biblical to support my position.

    However, I am certain that some sermons I've listened to deem free will vital, and the fact that God gave us the choice means He will not interfere with our choice. If He did, it's no longer a choice.
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    @divegeester said
    Bad things happen everyday.
    Do you know what my point is?
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    @chaney3 said
    At this moment, I have nothing Biblical to support my position.

    However, I am certain that some sermons I've listened to deem free will vital, and the fact that God gave us the choice means He will not interfere with our choice. If He did, it's no longer a choice.
    Sermons are just somebody’s opinion on the bible.

    A bit like KellyJay’s opinions on the bible.
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    @chaney3 said
    Do you know what my point is?
    Is it that you don’t see any evidence of god interfering with free will?
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    @divegeester said
    Sermons are just somebody’s opinion on the bible.

    A bit like KellyJay’s opinions on the bible.
    What do you know about free will, Biblically?
    What's your view on the subject?
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