Free Will

@kellyjay said
Not sure how many times I have to tell you none of us fits into that group so none of us can come to God in just our own righteousness.

Which brings us back to my pointing out that your made up assertion is pointless made up nonsense.

@divegeester said
Which brings us back to my pointing out that your made up assertion is pointless made up nonsense.

In your world you may think you and everyone is just fine in your standing with God, that explanation makes your doctrine palatable to anti-Christs and Atheists but it does not mean you are going to acceptable to the Lord.

@kellyjay said
In your world you may think you and everyone is just fine in your standing with God, that explanation makes your doctrine palatable to anti-Christs and Atheists but it does not mean you are going to acceptable to the Lord.

Tell me again how no one fits into your made up assertion?

@divegeester said
Tell me again how no one fits into your made up assertion?

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

@kellyjay said
Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

So it was a pointless erroneous assertion?

@divegeester said
So it was a pointless erroneous assertion?

The world stands condemned already due to sin, it isn't pointless it is scriptural.
Your failure to grasp this and your denial only shows when you speak of such
things, it isn't due to any scriptural understanding on your part, but your
imagination.

@kellyjay said
The world stands condemned already due to sin, it isn't pointless it is scriptural.
Your failure to grasp this and your denial only shows when you speak of such
things, it isn't due to any scriptural understanding on your part, but your
imagination.

Here’s your assertion from page 6:

“Someone who is only partially obedient is disobedient, just as there are no shades or of truth, something is true or not, obedience is or isn't as well. We need God's grace and mercy, our efforts will never be enough.”

Group 1 - Partially obedient and is therefore disobedient
Group 2 - Completely obedient

You’ve said that you don’t fit into either group and you’ve said no one else fits into either group.

Your assertion is pointless, moot, erroneous.
You’re just too proud to admit it.

@divegeester said
Here’s your assertion from page 6:

“Someone who is only partially obedient is disobedient, just as there are no shades or of truth, something is true or not, obedience is or isn't as well. We need God's grace and mercy, our efforts will never be enough.”

Group 1 - Partially obedient and is therefore disobedient
Group 2 - Completely obedient

You’v ...[text shortened]... either group.

Your assertion is pointless, moot, erroneous.
You’re just too proud to admit it.

You can say what you will, the fact of the matter according to scripture is that all
of have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, there are no degrees of
acceptability in sinning, one is enough, that was all it took to turn the world into
the cesspool it is today. The world stands condemned already, this means that we
cannot save ourselves, we need a redeemer, your ability not to see that or even
acknowledging it only shows how deceived you are.

@kellyjay said
You can say what you will, the fact of the matter according to scripture is that allof have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, there are no degrees ofacceptability in sinning, one is enough, that was all it took to turn the world intothe cesspool it is today. The world stands condemned already, this means that wecannot save ourselves, we need a redeemer, your ability not to see that or evenacknowledging it only shows how deceived you are.

Misanthropy much?

@kellyjay said
You can say what you will, the fact of the matter according to scripture is that all
of have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, there are no degrees of
acceptability in sinning, one is enough, that was all it took to turn the world into
the cesspool it is today. The world stands condemned already, this means that we
cannot save ourselves, we need a redeemer, your ability not to see that or even
acknowledging it only shows how deceived you are.

Your assertion is pointless, moot and erroneous.
All the other stuff your obfuscating with is irrelevant to that truth.

@divegeester said
Your assertion is pointless, moot and erroneous.
All the other stuff your obfuscating with is irrelevant to that truth.

What truth are you suggesting I am wrong about? Do you even know what
sanctification is?

@kellyjay said
What truth are you suggesting I am wrong about? Do you even know what
sanctification is?

It seems to me that he's just looking for you to admit that you're disobedient.
With no scripture needed.

@kellyjay said
What truth are you suggesting I am wrong about? Do you even know what
sanctification is?

No truth, your assertion. Here’s your assertion from page 6:

“Someone who is only partially obedient is disobedient, just as there are no shades or of truth, something is true or not, obedience is or isn't as well. We need God's grace and mercy, our efforts will never be enough.”

Group 1 - Partially obedient and is therefore disobedient
Group 2 - Completely obedient

You’ve said that you don’t fit into either group, and you’ve also said no one else fits into either group.

Your assertion is pointless, moot, erroneous.
You’re just too proud to admit it.

@chaney3 said
It seems to me that he's just looking for you to admit that you're disobedient.
With no scripture needed.

I have been saying that all along, it isn't news, we are all fallen without the ability to
pull ourselves up.

@divegeester said
No truth, your assertion. Here’s your assertion from page 6:

“Someone who is only partially obedient is disobedient, just as there are no shades or of truth, something is true or not, obedience is or isn't as well. We need God's grace and mercy, our efforts will never be enough.”

Group 1 - Partially obedient and is therefore disobedient
Group 2 - Com ...[text shortened]... either group.

Your assertion is pointless, moot, erroneous.
You’re just too proud to admit it.

Are you a Christian?