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Getting past eternal torture

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Actually it doesn't matter to me, and I'm not here to preach to the choir. If you actually
ever were a Christian you'd know that none of us can come to God unless He draws them
to Christ. You don't get to just choose, if left to your devices you will choose your sins
over God, your sins bind you to them, and distort you views of all things. My only desi ...[text shortened]... you declare that you see and understand, so you will be without
an excuse when judgment comes.
If you're not speaking to fellow believers and you can't be bothered [or are simply unable] to explain yourself to non-believers, what are you posting for?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
You have gone over our conversation and still managed to miss the central points of what God has
done, and is doing.
What action is your God taking against what you describe as your own "wicked and evil ways"? You seem to have declared yourself "forgiven" due to your religious beliefs. And yet earlier you said that God has to "take action against evil" otherwise He will go against His nature. You have simply claimed that you are "forgiven" and will enjoy "everlasting life". But according to your own dogma, you have described no "action" being taken against your own "evil".


Originally posted by @fmf
What action is your God taking against what you describe as your own "wicked and evil ways"? You seem to have declared yourself "forgiven" due to your religious beliefs. And yet earlier you said that God has to "take action against evil" otherwise He will go against His nature. You have simply claimed that you are "forgiven" and will enjoy "everlasting life". B ...[text shortened]... according to your own dogma, you have described no "action" being taken against your own "evil".
Repeating myself isn't going to help you, since I've given you these answers earlier, nothing
has changed, they are the same as when I first spoke about them.


Originally posted by @fmf
If you're not speaking to fellow believers and you can't be bothered [or are simply unable] to explain yourself to non-believers, what are you posting for?
We all speak here to everyone who reads as we respond to each other. My main focus is
not the unbeliever, unbelievers and believers can be real pricks. Jesus Christ however loves
them, and Jesus died for me, He died for them, so for Christ sake I do my best. If it were
for those around me I can get pissed off enough to not care about them, but Jesus loved
them at their worse, so for Christ sake not theirs I share.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Repeating myself isn't going to help you, since I've given you these answers earlier, nothing
has changed, they are the same as when I first spoke about them.
You haven't mentioned any "action"; you've only mentioned NOT "taking action".


Originally posted by @kellyjay
We all speak here to everyone who reads as we respond to each other. My main focus is not the unbeliever, unbelievers and believers can be real pricks.
You're being furtive and churlish, that much is clear. But I have not called you a "real prick".


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Jesus Christ however loves them, and Jesus died for me, He died for them, so for Christ sake I do my best. If it were for those around me I can get pissed off enough to not care about them, but Jesus loved them at their worse, so for Christ sake not theirs I share.
What action is Jesus going to take against your "wicked and evil ways"? Or is it the opposite? Are you simply going to be "forgiven"?


Originally posted by @fmf
You're being furtive and churlish, that much is clear. But I have not called you a "real prick".
The cross of Christ is what matters and drives me, this is a world of sinners myself included and Jesus Christ suffered and died for us and rose from the dead. He is the reality that has changed me over 30 years ago, turning my life to God not further away from Him.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
The cross of Christ is what matters and drives me, this is a world of sinners myself included and Jesus Christ suffered and died for us and rose from the dead. He is the reality that has changed me over 30 years ago, turning my life to God not further away from Him.
So your take on the "evil" in this world is that adherents to your religion are "forgiven" for their part in it and nobody else is. This is the "truth" you seek to share?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
My main focus is not the unbeliever, unbelievers and believers can be real pricks.
I have not called you a "real prick".


Originally posted by @fmf
I have not called you a "real prick".
Did not make the claim you did.


Originally posted by @fmf
So your take on the "evil" in this world is that adherents to your religion are "forgiven" for their part in it and nobody else is. This is the "truth" you seek to share?
Nope I have nothing to do with another’s salvation that will be between them and Jesus Christ.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Nope I have nothing to do with another’s salvation that will be between them and Jesus Christ.
This is a non-sequitur. Deliberate?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Did not make the claim you did.
What does you thinking some people are "real pricks" have to do with God "forgiving" Christians for their "wicked and evil ways" rather than taking action against them?


Originally posted by @fmf
What does you thinking some people are "real pricks" have to do with God "forgiving" Christians for their "wicked and evil ways" rather than taking action against them?
Unless you have something to add to this I think we are done.