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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Oh, so you want God to crush all evil doers?
Just answer the questions.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
I don't have a god, the One I serve has created me and you and the rest of the universe.
Yes, you do. You are a Christian. Your God is the Christian God.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Just answer the questions.
I have, you must have been, and still really are blind to the grace of God.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Yes, you do. You are a Christian. Your God is the Christian God.
As I said, I don't have one, He has me and all of His creation in the sense I serve Him He
is mine, but I don't and cannot lay claim to Him.


Originally posted by @fmf
Just answer the questions.
Demanding for someone whose rules stops him from answering questions put to him.

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Are you of the opinion that FMF does not dodge questions?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Demanding for someone whose rules stops him from answering questions put to him.
I am asking you about your current beliefs. What is it about my current beliefs that you want to know?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
I have, you must have been, and still really are blind to the grace of God.
You have described your God not "taking action against evil" and yet you have claimed He must "take action against "evil" or otherwise go against His nature ~ even as you lay down a bank of white phosphorous dogma to presumably justify how He won't be "taking action against evil" when it is perpetrated by Christians like you.


Originally posted by @fmf
Rely on your generic dogma by all means, but not to insulate yourself from the discussion; bring it to bear on the specific points I am putting to you. You seem to think your take on "God taking action against evil" adds up and makes sense - it doesn't, except perhaps to you - and I suspect this is because your own understanding of what you claim seems unexamined and is probably just as opaque - and as 'recited' - as your attempts to explain it.
Hmm, what else do you think your going to get from anyone other than what makes sense to them? This is a difference between us, I am here for conversation I can accept answers I don’t happen to agree with, I am not here for a fault finding criticism investigation. I suppose that might be why nothing I say is good enough for you.


Originally posted by @fmf
You have described your God not "taking action against evil" and yet you have claimed He must "take action against "evil" or otherwise go against His nature ~ even as you lay down a bank of white phosphorous dogma to presumably justify how He won't be "taking action against evil" when it is perpetrated by Christians like you.
God is giving room for repentance and salvation, evil and wickedness are being clearly defined so that when He puts an end to such things it will clearly be a righteous end and judgement!


Originally posted by @kellyjay
God is giving room for repentance and salvation, evil and wickedness are being clearly defined so that when He puts an end to such things it will clearly be a righteous end and judgement!
This is generic dogma. Take the two questions and show how this dogma demonstrates God "taking action against evil", whether it be the "evil" of the Holocaust, the "evil" of child abuse, or the "evil" you do.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Hmm, what else do you think your going to get from anyone other than what makes sense to them? This is a difference between us, I am here for conversation I can accept answers I don’t happen to agree with, I am not here for a fault finding criticism investigation. I suppose that might be why nothing I say is good enough for you.
You have made claims about the reality in which I live. And now you are hiding behind typed-texts that carefully do not meet head on the specifics of the questions I have raised about reality.

Yes, you suggest you are "forgiven" for the "evil" you do. Over and over again. Good for you ... so no divine action is taken against you for your "wicked and evil ways". Understood.

Now how about my two questions?

If it's the same for the Christian person exterminating Jews or the Christian person covering up the child abuse - i.e. no action taken against these instances of "evil" - just say so.



Originally posted by @fmf
I am asking you about your current beliefs. What is it about my current beliefs that you want to know?
I really don’t care about your current beliefs and have told you what I do care about. So simply caring is meaningless in this conversation as only your interests matter no one else’s.