Originally posted by Proper KnobI never did say I or anyone else knew the exact date... But I'd venture to say we're much closer to knowing that then the date the earth was created.
From wikipedia -
[i]Our only sources of information on Jesus' birth are the gospels of Matthew and Luke of the Bible, which provide two different accounts of the nativity.
Matthew describes King Herod as the ruler during the time of the Nativity, and Herod died in 4BC. Furthermore, in order to kill Jesus and eliminate him as a rival king, Herod or ...[text shortened]... ut to show that even the birth of Jesus isn't exactly known, just like the age of the Earth.
Originally posted by galveston75Well you seemed pretty sure two posts ago when you typed -
I never did say I or anyone else knew the exact date... But I'd venture to say we're much closer to knowing that then the date the earth was created.
Not think but know he was born late September or early October 2 BCE... Not correct? Prove it...
In both cases we know 'around' the time when they occurred.
Originally posted by Proper KnobSo I'll repeat my previous post.....
Well you seemed pretty sure two posts ago when you typed -
Not think but know he was born late September or early October 2 BCE... Not correct? Prove it...
In both cases we know 'around' the time when they occurred.
That's a great point. None of us know how the earth was created or how long ago. We don't know how in God's wisdom he created life and we will probaly never know.
And there is nothing wrong in exploring anything as God created us with a wonderful mind that is always wanting to learn.
But the mistake is not seeing that it would have to take an incredible creater with knowledge far beyond ours and refuse to see that and then decide we as humans have to come up with other theories that we fool ourselves into believeing.
We can't push God out of the picture just because we can't understand the universe around us...We just don't know all the answers and that's ok.
Originally posted by galveston75Sorry, but if your post was flawed the first time round, posting exactly the same thing a few posts later isn't going to change anything.
So I'll repeat my previous post.....
That's a great point. None of us know how the earth was created or how long ago. We don't know how in God's wisdom he created life and we will probaly never know.
And there is nothing wrong in exploring anything as God created us with a wonderful mind that is always wanting to learn.
But the mistake is not see ...[text shortened]... 't understand the universe around us...We just don't know all the answers and that's ok.
we as humans have to come up with other theories that we fool ourselves into believeing.
I obviously hold mankinds achievements in greater esteem than you do.
Originally posted by galveston75That's simply not true. You obviously have a very selective memory.
At least knowing about God makes some humans excited about life. Will you ever have a positive thing to say about anything or is this best you got? I've never seen anyone with such a negative attitude. It's in every thread you post!!!!! What's up with that?
Originally posted by Proper Knobnope, you only hold mankinds achievements in greater esteem than Gods 🙂
Sorry, but if your post was flawed the first time round, posting exactly the same thing a few posts later isn't going to change anything.
[b]we as humans have to come up with other theories that we fool ourselves into believeing.
I obviously hold mankinds achievements in greater esteem than you do.[/b]
Originally posted by Proper Knob1 Cor 1:20, 25 & 27 & 2:14 & 3:19. Proverbs 12:15 & 19:3. Isa 44:25.
Sorry, but if your post was flawed the first time round, posting exactly the same thing a few posts later isn't going to change anything.
[b]we as humans have to come up with other theories that we fool ourselves into believeing.
I obviously hold mankinds achievements in greater esteem than you do.[/b]
And finally, 2Tim 2:23 & Proverbs 26:4. Unless you and Fab have anything worth hearing, which I haven't seen in one single posting ever, I'm done arguing with closed minded people.
Originally posted by galveston75What the?
1 Cor 1:20, 25 & 27 & 2:14 & 3:19. Proverbs 12:15 & 19:3. Isa 44:25.
And finally, 2Tim 2:23 & Proverbs 26:4. Unless you and Fab have anything worth hearing, which I haven't seen in one single posting ever, I'm done arguing with closed minded people.
How do you get closemindedness from a willingness to evaluate evidencecompared to your 'open minded'position of an a priori belief in a supernatural god/fairy?
Originally posted by amannionare you willing to evaluate the scriptural references? nope, then you just may be as close minded as Galvo is making out, considering your references to God as a figment of the imagination.
What the?
How do you get closemindedness from a willingness to evaluate evidencecompared to your 'open minded'position of an a priori belief in a supernatural god/fairy?
Originally posted by galveston75basically from your verses i gather that you are the wise man and fabian and the others are the fools, am i correct?
1 Cor 1:20, 25 & 27 & 2:14 & 3:19. Proverbs 12:15 & 19:3. Isa 44:25.
And finally, 2Tim 2:23 & Proverbs 26:4. Unless you and Fab have anything worth hearing, which I haven't seen in one single posting ever, I'm done arguing with closed minded people.
Originally posted by galveston75Good grief.
1 Cor 1:20, 25 & 27 & 2:14 & 3:19. Proverbs 12:15 & 19:3. Isa 44:25.
And finally, 2Tim 2:23 & Proverbs 26:4. Unless you and Fab have anything worth hearing, which I haven't seen in one single posting ever, I'm done arguing with closed minded people.
I don't believe in a God because i don't see any evidence for one, but admit that there may be one because obviously i don't know for certain.
You believe in your God and are convinced you are 100% correct, and wouldn't dream of entertaining the idea you are wrong.
And you call ME close minded??!!!
Do they teach irony classes down at the Kingdom Hall? Because it's soemething you and Robbie specialise in.
Originally posted by Proper Knobawe shucks *blushes*
Good grief.
I don't believe in a God because i don't see any evidence for one, but admit that there may be one because obviously i don't know for certain.
You believe in your God and are convinced you are 100% correct, and wouldn't dream of entertaining the idea you are wrong.
And you call ME close minded??!!!
Do they teach irony classes down at the Kingdom Hall? Because it's soemething you and Robbie specialise in.
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Originally posted by Zahlanziwell if anyone knows fools its you, is it not Zapansy? you are the foolfinder general! i can see you on your horse, riding out with your large Elizabethan style hat, into the villages to put any joker, court jesters or other fools to death! was he guilty of human feelings? yes me lord! throw him into the river! if he sinks, hes a fool, if he floats hes in league with crusty the clown! regardless, hes a fool and should be put to death!
basically from your verses i gather that you are the wise man and fabian and the others are the fools, am i correct?