Originally posted by FMFYes, I do believe in that God. My opinion is that God cannot be defended. He did awful things, but cannot be defended. I am left with 2 choices........God exists and we will never understand Him. Or, there is a Creator, and we have NO idea who He is, because we have been given a 'Bible' to try to understand Him.....but, the Bible is probably a load of horse manure. Jesus could have sacrificed Himself 5,000 years sooner and the Noah flood would never have happened. The entire narrative of God and Jesus does NOT make sense. I agree with the atheists on every single point except one.........I still believe that mankind was created.
So you [b]don't believe the "God" you are accusing of this that and the other, in your OP, actually exists?[/b]
Originally posted by chaney3So you believe in the OT/NT God figure "because [you] have been given a 'Bible' to try to understand Him" but "...the Bible is probably a load of horse manure" and "The entire narrative of God and Jesus does NOT make sense" but... you believe in the OT/NT God figure regardless? Why?
Yes, I do believe in that God. My opinion is that God cannot be defended. He did awful things, but cannot be defended. I am left with 2 choices........God exists and we will never understand Him. Or, there is a Creator, and we have NO idea who He is, because we have been given a 'Bible' to try to understand Him.....but, the Bible is probably a load of ho ...[text shortened]... the atheists on every single point except one.........I still believe that mankind was created.
Originally posted by chaney3Oh, no.
FMF......I don't. That is the entire point of my thread. I believe in a Creator, but, I am beginning to think that my Creator is completely different than the 'God' of the Bible. That was my entire point of this thread. I have read these posts, and it seems clear to me that the Bible may be flawed. The 'God' that loves me would NOT hold my eternity in b ...[text shortened]... based on your posts, I am SURE that you believe the same. We are arguing over the same belief?
It looks like Zahlanzi has poisoned another mind seeking answers. I wouldn't have believed it possible had I not seen it for myself.
Denying God is not where the answers you seek lie.
Originally posted by SuzianneTo be fair to chaney3, it seems he is clinging on for dear life to your God, and pointedly not "denying" Him ~ only questioning His actions ~ which makes your quip about 'where the answers he seeks lie' sound a bit swingfisty. 😉
Denying God is not where the answers you seek lie.
Originally posted by SuzianneSuzianne, do you not have an answer to my Op? Our God has committed evil beyond Hitler. Faced with this knowledge, an atheist has every right to question us. We cannot answer the reasons why God would destroy children. Can you Suzianne? It is becoming apparent that our God of the Bible is a lie. Unless......you can yourself explain His murders.
Oh, no.
It looks like Zahlanzi has poisoned another mind seeking answers. I wouldn't have believed it possible had I not seen it for myself.
Denying God is not where the answers you seek lie.
-Removed-Have you read my OP? God is on trial, not me. Atheists have every right to proclaim that our God is evil. Are you stupid dive? Are you arrogant dive? We have NO leg to stand on when it comes to the evil that our God Himself dishes out. When are you, or we, going to stop being God's lawyer?