Originally posted by chaney3The issue on this thread is what your beliefs are and whether your reasons for having them make any sense ~ if indeed you do have any properly formed reasons. Many of my questions have afforded you an opportunity to make yourself clearer but you have ducked them.
I have pointed out that you have argued with lemonlime about the notion of an eternal hell. I still have no idea what your belief system is.
Originally posted by FMFWrong. You are an idiot. The irony of this discussion is that I need atheists to make my point. God is on trial here, not me.
The issue on this thread is what your beliefs are and whether your reasons for having them make any sense ~ if indeed you do have any properly formed reasons. Many of my questions have afforded you an opportunity to make yourself clearer but you have ducked them.
Originally posted by chaney3Originally posted by chaney3
Wrong. You are an idiot. The irony of this discussion is that I need atheists to make my point. God is on trial here, not me.
a-hole .. jerk .. hypocrite .. jerkoff .. idiot .. moron .. jerk .. idiot a-hole.. a-hole... a-hole .. jerkoff .. a-hole
So do you believe that your God figure actually committed the atrocities you mention or do you reject the ideology/mythology that claims that He did?
Originally posted by chaney3 to divegeesterSo, theologically speaking, do you believe that there is vengeance and punishment by way of eternal torture for non-believers at the hands of the Christian God figure?
You have no idea what to believe. You have said that you are ready to give up the New Testament because you don't believe in an eternal hell. Your faith is shallow. You have no right to condemn.
-Removed-Your opinion of troll means nothing to me dive. You were ready to give up your entire belief of the New Testament based on the hell issue. So, don't lecture me. You are as fragile with your faith as anybody. I asked a simple question in my OP, and you should read it again. I believe that the Bible may be BS, and it is causing me grief. I resent your accusations.
Originally posted by FMFI don't find it strange anymore how you have been accused of being gay with your gay friend dive. Funny how I direct points to him, and you intervene. Gay people aside.
If your OP and subsequent demeanour were unfolding at a seminar at which you were speaking, you would most likely be viewed as an atheist posing as a Christian in order to spoof and goad believers in the Bible.
I made valid points in my OP, and I am direly in need of atheists to concur. The gay relationship between dive and FMF should not interfere. Thank you.
Originally posted by chaney3So you believe in the OT/NT God figure "because [you] have been given a 'Bible' to try to understand Him" but "...the Bible is probably a load of horse manure" and "The entire narrative of God and Jesus does NOT make sense" but... you believe in the OT/NT God figure regardless? Why? [yes, I asked you this before, but you skipped it.]
I made valid points in my OP, and I am direly in need of atheists to concur. The gay relationship between dive and FMF should not interfere. Thank you.
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Dive, if you are asking me about my beliefs, then you had better be able to handle the truth. Did you read my OP dive? God is on trial here, not me!!!!! I did not kill the people of Noah's flood dive. What is your problem???
Edit: Hey dive......have you given up on Christianity because of hell? Regardless of what you think, I am seeking the same answers as you. My OP stated that maybe the Bible is riddled with flaws......that is it!!!!
Originally posted by chaney3Why do believe that "God" killed people with that particular flood? Surely floods have been wiping out people down throughout history. Why do you believe the Noah story if you believe "the entire narrative of God and Jesus does NOT make sense"?
Dive, if you are asking me about my beliefs, then you had better be able to handle the truth. Did you read my OP dive? God is on trial here, not me!!!!! I did not kill the people of Noah's flood dive. What is your problem???