Would Pharaoh have initially let the 'people' go after the first few warnings from Moses? Probably not. But after the plagues began, Pharaoh would have been a moron NOT to let them go....on HIS own. The only reason he kept refusing was because God hardened his heart.
Originally posted by @chaney3 Would Pharaoh have initially let the 'people' go after the first few warnings from Moses? Probably not. But after the plagues began, Pharaoh would have been a moron NOT to let them go....on HIS own. The only reason he kept refusing was because God hardened his heart.
God caused the plagues, not Pharaoh.
Who claimed that Pharaoh not God brought those plagues? Who claimed that God did not
cause Pharaoh's heart to be harden?
Originally posted by @kellyjay Who claimed that Pharaoh not God brought those plagues? Who claimed that God did not
cause Pharaoh's heart to be harden?
You're okay with God causing much pain, grief and death to people that had NO knowledge of the conflict between Moses and Pharaoh?
Originally posted by @chaney3 You're okay with God causing much pain, grief and death to people that had NO knowledge of the conflict between Moses and Pharaoh?
You're defense of God is extraordinary.
Just so I know, exactly at this point in time right now in 2017 would all of the pain and
suffering of those people still be going on if that didn't happen, or would they be dead
from other causes, would they have suffered in life had that not happen, or some other
things occur in the normal course of life cause them to suffer?
Originally posted by @chaney3 You're okay with God causing much pain, grief and death to people that had NO knowledge of the conflict between Moses and Pharaoh?
You're defense of God is extraordinary.
You happy God gave you the life you are now living? You happy with all the things He gives
you daily, like air, light, food, and so on. You know nothing you have wasn't made by Him,
and He deals with us all no differently than anyone else. Generations come and go and God
is, that does mean that in time each of us will leave and others will be here instead.
Originally posted by @dj2becker Having a hard heart towards God is our natural state. His heart was already hardened by himself. After some time God hands you over completely to your own will.
Your point is in direct contradiction with the biblical text. If Pharoah's heart was already hardened, the Torah writer would not have written, "God hardened Pharoah's heart" because that would be nonsense.
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem Your point is in direct contradiction with the biblical text. If Pharoah's heart was already hardened, the Torah writer would not have written, "God hardened Pharoah's heart" because that would be nonsense.
That is like saying if the water is hot it cannot get hotter! Of course it could get harder, if it
were soft before God than no threats would have been required. Instead God showed His
power there by attacking all the gods of that area and things they trusted in outside of God.
Originally posted by @kellyjay That is like saying if the water is hot it cannot get hotter! Of course it could get harder, if it
were soft before God than no threats would have been required. Instead God showed His
power there by attacking all the gods of that area and things they trusted in outside of God.
God killed people.
You are NOT making sense.
Please stop your Yogi Berra posts, and make some sense.
Please stop your Yogi Berra posts, and make some sense.
Every single person who ever lived will die. God sets up all of our times for life, now we can
murder cutting off what God had in mind for us, but without exception everyone is going to
die and God sets up the limits on life. So what are you complaining about that God acted
and people died, they would have never had life in the first place if He hadn't give it to them.
Originally posted by @kellyjay Every single person who ever lived will die. God sets up all of our times for life, now we can
murder cutting off what God had in mind for us, but without exception everyone is going to
die and God sets up the limits on life. So what are you complaining about that God acted
and people died, they would have never had life in the first place if He hadn't give it to them.
27 Aug '17 21:41
Hardening of heart.
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