@FMF
Here is your reply to my question about when the first non-human mother gave birth to the first human baby.
I don't know. I have no reason to believe there was anything remotely like that which happened in the space of one instance of giving birth. My best guess is that human consciousness evolved gradually. What's your best guess?
So evolution was SO gradual that it is impossible to draw a line between the non-human and the human?
If that is the case than how do you know non-humans are alive today who might be mistaken for humans?
Wouldn't that attitude of not being able to quantify gradualism tend to feed racist philsophies such as fueled the African Slave Trade?
Ie. They only looked human but were not evolved enough.
Other than for having sex with sometimes, the blacks were only beasts of
burden.
Wouldn't your view of undetectable gradualism furnish the racist, eugenicist, or Nazi with a rationale to treat other humans as not fully human? I mean while you're on the moral compass concept.
@FMF
About your moral compass, since your's you think is so keen -
Is executing to death an unborn child as evil to you as executing a born child ?
Or do you sooth your moral compass by reasoning that the unborn child is not
a human being?
@sonship saidIf by "executing to death" you mean terminating a pregnancy before it would be able to survive outside the womb and you are comparing it to murdering an infant, then my answer is no. But my moral compass would prevent me from doing either.
Is executing to death an unborn child as evil to you as executing a born child ?
@sonship saidDo you mean if there had been Nazis or eugenicists 100,000+ years ago?
Wouldn't your view of undetectable gradualism furnish the racist, eugenicist, or Nazi with a rationale to treat other humans as not fully human? I mean while you're on the moral compass concept.
@sonship said[1]So evolution was SO gradual that it is impossible to draw a line between the non-human and the human? [2] If that is the case than how do you know non-humans are alive today who might be mistaken for humans?
So evolution was SO gradual that it is impossible to draw a line between the non-human and the human? If that is the case than how do you know non-humans are alive today who might be mistaken for humans?
[1] Presumably you are talking about 100s of thousands of years ago. I don't know.
[2] I am not aware of any.
@sonship saidI know that, anatomically, we are something in the region of 300,000 years old as a species. I do not know how ~ or how fast ~ our consciousness evolved. That's a question you might want to post on the Science Forum.
So evolution was SO gradual that it is impossible to draw a line between the non-human and the human?
[1] Presumably you are talking about 100s of thousands of years ago. I don't know.
[2] I am not aware of any.
You mean you didn't observe it?
I thought science is about observation.
Maybe your theory, since unobserved, isn't true.
I mean, you're welcomed to a religious belief about it.
When did preserving life become a good thing ?
When did survival of life to reproduce become a good thing ?
So, then, sonship. Would it be evil to put a child to death for disrespecting his or her parents now in the C21st? My answer is yes.
How do you judge the putting to death a child in the womb of a woman who has not spoken ANYTHING disrespectful to its parents, but to live?
How do you tell your moral compass that that is a good thing, to abort at will a child?
Personally, no, I do not see the unborn child as "not a human being".
Are you simiarly bothered about sixty some million unborn children executed as you are about a law (with no instance I can think of being carried out in the Bible) about riding the thoecratic nation of a disrespecrtful child?
In the 21st CE we know of millions of executions of unborn children.
Without some real research I can think of NO execution of a disrespectfully speaking child in the Old Testament.
No example compared to milliions of examples of child killings.
Are you similarly bothered in your moral compass about the millions of
documented killings of unborn children?