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It's difficult to explain exactly my aversion to it. Perhaps it stems from my many years as a Catholic.
Okay.
We're talking about moral compasses.
You may have a moral compass you think is better that me as a Christian.
But I'll tell what. In your ATHEISM there is no final enforcer.
Basically, in YOUR system your the moral compass has no effective final
enforcement. There may be lots of ideas you consider high in morality.
But there is no ultimate accountability to INFORCEMENT and justice.
In your atheist philosophy you may have the knowledge of good and evil.
But other than noble self regulartion (which tends to go easy on the self) there
will be no final justice for moral compass infrigments.
My Christian faith as a last judgment and and an redemption from ultimate infallible omniscient, omnipotent divine inforcement.
There is a final court, a eternal redemption, and a Savior.
Other than a feel good boast that you have a moral compass, what do you really have that will with infallibility enforce the standard? This is the byproduct of your riding the universe of God.
You eliminate the Perfect Judge and you eliminate the Perfect Advocating Defense Attorney and Savior.
Maybe in withdrawing from Catholicism you went overboard to throw away the baby with the bath water.
@sonship saidIf you want to believe there is "ultimate accountability" and "final enforcement", that's OK. I don't see any credible evidence that there is.
But I'll tell what. In your ATHEISM there is no final inforcer. Basically, in YOUR system your the moral compass has no effective final inforcement. There may be lots of ideas you consider high in morality. But there is no ultimate accountability to INFORCEMENT and justice.
@sonship saidThe way I see it, there will be "no final justice" for you either.
In your atheist philosophy you may have the knowledge of good and evil. But other than noble self regulartion (which tends to go easy on the self) there will be no final justice for moral compass infrigments.
@sonship saidWell, I don't find your notions of "the Perfect Judge" and "the Perfect Advocating Defense Attorney" and "Saviour" credible. I don't have any belief that what you are talking about is real. So, I don't see how I am actually "eliminating" anything.
You eliminate the Perfect Judge and you eliminate the Perfect Advocating Defense Attorney and Savior.
@sonship saidYes. I am aware of what you believe. However, just because there is injustice in the world, it does not mean that there is cosmic justice.
My Christian faith as a last judgment and and an redemption from ultimate infallible omniscient, omnipotent divine inforcement.
Yes. I am aware of what you believe. However, just because there is injustice in the world, it does not mean that there is cosmic justice.
I better believe believe there is.
The book covers 1600 hears with a track record manifesting Someone overseeing, transcendently aware, with character of power and infallibility.
There is no need to assume in a vacuum.
I have the history of Genesis through Revelation to furnish a resume
of such a Person.
I ignore it at my own silly peril.
@sonship saidIf it gives you purpose and structure and if your belief results in you treating people in a morally sound way, then it's a good thing, I'm sure.
I better believe believe there is.
The book covers 1600 hears with a track record manifesting Someone overseeing, transcendently aware, with character of power and infallibility.
There is no need to assume in a vacuum.
I have the history of Genesis through Revelation to furnish a resume
of such a Person.
I ignore it at my own silly peril.
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@FMF
As you can see my repies are not in sequence.
A loss of faith is a loss of faith, sonship, regardless of your talk of bathwater and babies.
There are many reasons for "loss of faith".
They are not all because God went away.
Maybe you moved and God has gone nowhere.
I had a time of loss of faith too, near total for years.
It started with unconfessed sins.
It started with the accumumation of sins not brought to God for cleansing by
confession to Him (not to some clerical authority).
When I lost my faith I thought God was a old discarded child's teddy bear of unrealism. I was deceived and found out He who was with me as a child was not some lost toy. He was still there with all my aging in sophistication and adulthood.
I'm just saying that is my experience.
"Loss of faith" is not the end of God.
It is just the end of your faith, and that maybe only temporarily.
An old says " If you don't feel close to God, guess who moved."
Paul had fellow apostles who underwent loss of faith too.
Loss of faith is not something that cannot be restored.
"I loss my faith" has been said by many a men who had faith restored and
realized even what they had before was not very soild to begin with.
" I loss my faith " is not necessarily the realization of the truth of there being no
God. It could be the loss of your fellowship with God.