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Honour your father and mother

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@sonship said
I said 2.) The potential for abuse was from the start and could occur at any time.
This is not what I asked you. I am not talking about "potential for abuse". I am talking about executions being good at some point and then evil at some point.

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@sonship said
I said 3.) I did not account that as the commandment switching to being evil.
This is not what I asked you. I am talking about the carrying out of executions. Carrying them out was good at some point and then carrying them out became evil at some point.

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@sonship said
I said 4.) I explained fallen human nature to abuse commands even from age.
This is not what I asked you. I am not talking about "fallen human nature". I am talking about executions being evil..

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@fmf said
Enough with the disingenuous red herrings, sonship. I am asking you when executing people for this transgression became evil.
Why is this important to you? Some cultures promote honor killings. I don’t believe in them, I believe we are under grace not the letter of the law. Are you suggesting not all cultures or views on morality are not equally valid?

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@kellyjay said
Why is this important to you? Some cultures promote honor killings. I don’t believe in them, I believe we are under grace not the letter of the law. Are you suggesting not all cultures or views on morality are not equally valid?
Would it be evil to execute someone for not honouring their parents nowadays?

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@kellyjay said
Are you suggesting not all cultures or views on morality are not equally valid?
This is a red herring here. And we've discussed before, recently. I am asking about whether you think it is evil to put someone to death for transgressing the commandment in the OP?

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@fmf said
This is a red herring here. And we've discussed before, recently. I am asking about whether you think it is evil to put someone to death for transgressing the commandment in the OP?
Well if everyone gets to make up their own minds on what Is acceptable who can then say what you are doing is either good or evil, right or wrong? It is not a red herring it is the heart of the matter!

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@fmf said
Would it be evil to execute someone for not honouring their parents nowadays?
I answered that already we are under grace not the letter of the law. Your question assumes it was okay once now maybe not, things changed, is that how you see it?

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@kellyjay said
I answered that already we are under grace not the letter of the law. Your question assumes it was okay once now maybe not, things changed, is that how you see it?
Yes it is evil? Or no it is not evil?

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@kellyjay said
Well if everyone gets to make up their own minds on what Is acceptable who can then say what you are doing is either good or evil, right or wrong?
Make YOUR mind up.

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@fmf said
Make YOUR mind up.
I told you already, and you don't seem to understand. NO, we are under grace, not the letter of the law.

I'm not the one who is having issues here; it is you. Was it ever wrong, is it wrong, was it ever right? If there are no standards that all of us are held to, how would you know one way or another? Does the passage of time make some things okay or wrong with time?

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@FMF

You don't like my reply. Got it.
Maybe you can answer a question for me then.

When did the first non-human mother give birth to the first human baby?

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@kellyjay said
I told you already, and you don't seem to understand. NO, we are under grace, not the letter of the law.
When did it become evil to put people to death for this? It'd be evil now, right?

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@sonship said
You don't like my reply.
Your "reply" was evasive.

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@sonship said
When did the first non-human mother give birth to the first human baby?
I don't know. I have no reason to believe there was anything remotely like that which happened in the space of one instance of giving birth. My best guess is that human consciousness evolved gradually. What's your best guess?