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Honour your father and mother

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@FMF

Do think it would be evil, nowadays, to execute someone for speaking disrespectfully of their father or mother?


Did you read carefully what I wrote?
If you read carefully what I wrote you should have noticed I said -

Probably, it could be abused sneakily and evilly by someone the very same year they first heard the commandment.

Ie. Some evilly reasoning parent could utilize the commandments as an excuse to murder a child for the slightest infraction. Abuse of one of the commandments could occur soon after receiving it at Mt. Sinai.

Ultra "tolerance" of obsessive permisivism could also abuse go to the extreme not to discipline ANY expression of disrepect whatsoever. Don't you think extremes on either side were capable of being abused? I do.


I think the reply is clear.
Since the day the commandment came on either side as an exreme it could be evilly abused. If you missed it, that means then and up to now.


If the answer is "No", then when did it switch from being "good" to "evil" for the death penalty to be applied for this


Once again, the ABUSE of the commandment on either side of exaggerated strictness to exagerrated neglect could be evilly applied at any time.

I don't count that as a switching of the nature of the commandment.
I count that as an abuse of the commandment behind evil motives.

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Fallen human nature is good at abusing commanded instructions.

Ie. A mother told her child to go to bed at 8:00 pm.
At 8:30 she hears boisterous noise coming out of the bedroom.
She goes in and sees the child jumping up and down on the bed like a
tramboline.

She scolds the child - "Child, I TOLD you to go to BED at 8:00."
The child continues jumping and replies "You told me to go TO bed,
not to go get IN the bed."

The commandment to "Go to bed at 8:00 pm" did not SWITCH from good to evil. The sneaky abuse of the instruction manifested questionable motives on the child's part.


@sonship said
The commandment to "Go to bed at 8:00 pm" did not SWITCH from good to evil.
Enough with the disingenuous red herrings, sonship. I am asking you when executing people for this transgression became evil.


@sonship said
Did you read carefully what I wrote?
Yes. And I am wondering why you are being so evasive.

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@FMF
If you read carefully, then what was my answer to your questions ?

Are you saying you have not been answered ?

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Yes. And I am wondering why you are being so evasive.


Perhaps you mean you were not answered because you did not obtain the answer you wish.

ie "The answer I WANT is ____________. I did not get that answer. So I charge you with being evasive."

That appears to be the maneuvor you're contriving.


@sonship said
Perhaps you mean you were not answered because you did not obtain the answer you wish.
No, I mean that you are dancing around and not answering my question, as is KellyJay, about the death penalty being evil at some point... when it was presumably good [not evil] at some earlier point.


@sonship said
If you read carefully, then what was my answer to your questions ?
Yawn.

If you want to dodge, then dodge.


@sonship said
That appears to be the maneuvor you're contriving.
Oh the irony.

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For engagers of some posters I recommend posters view this little
video on the tactic of putting words in people's mouths.

Dealing with:
Conversational Bullies and the "So You're Saying" Trap.
Oversimplifying, misrepresenting or mischaracteristize what others said.
Hidden presuppositions.
Frame games.

&ab_channel=CharismaonCommand


@sonship said
Are you saying you have not been answered ?
I am asking you when executing people for this transgression became evil. You haven't answered it.


@sonship said
For engagers of some posters I recommend posters view this little
video on the tactic of putting words in people's mouths.

Dealing with:
Conversational Bullies and the "So You're Saying" Trap.
Oversimplifying, misrepresenting or mischaracteristize what others said.
Hidden presuppositions.
Frame games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS9W-wlJHPA&t=469s&ab_channel=CharismaonCommand
Gosh. The ends you go to sometimes to not answer a question!

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@FMF

I am asking you when executing people for this transgression became evil. You haven't answered it.


I don't need to give you date and time of day when such a commandment like this was first abused and its application was evil.

I said 1.) I didn't know when the evil abuse was first done.
I said 2.) The potential for abuse was from the start and could occur at any time.
I said 3.) I did not account that as the commandment switching to being evil.
I said 4.) I explained fallen human nature to abuse commands even from early
age.

IF you regard this as evasion I suspect your frustration is that the argument you wish me to make I am not making. So this frustration is postured as me evading your question.


@sonship said
I don't need to give you date and time of day when such a commandment like this was first abused and its application was evil.
Would such an execution be evil if it were carried out today?


@sonship said
I said 1.) I didn't know when the evil abuse was first done.
This is not what I asked you. I am not talking about "abuse". I am talking about executions.