Honour your father and mother

@fmf said
‘Honour your father and mother,’ and ‘Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death.’ Matthew 15:4

[1] This surely doesn't apply in all cases, right? What about dysfunctional parents and families?

[2] When [what year or decade, approximately] did it become evil to execute people for contravening this commandment?

[3] What about this? "If anyo ...[text shortened]... children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about. How you pulled that verse(poor translation)out of its context and made application of it to an idea that it wasn't intended for proves you're merely trying to create an issue where none exists.

What's more, you obviously scorn the idea of "honour thy father and mother", not just because it comes from a "God figure" you don't know exists, but because God places a higher premium on the institution, to the extent that if anyone that dishonors his father and mother should die.

It's incomprehensible to you that someone should die just because they don't honour their parents. But the context from which you dragged that verse goes deeper than that.

Besides, the quote from Jesus was made in a Jewish context and doesn't have a literal application here in the "church age" as it did back then. No one gets killed for cussing their parents today.

Your point is moot.

@josephw said
Besides, the quote from Jesus was made in a Jewish context and doesn't have a literal application here in the "church age" as it did back then. No one gets killed for cussing their parents today.

In that case, when exactly did it become evil to execute people for contravening this commandment?

@josephw said
It's incomprehensible to you that someone should die just because they don't honour their parents. But the context from which you dragged that verse goes deeper than that.

Besides, the quote from Jesus was made in a Jewish context and doesn't have a literal application here in the "church age" as it did back then. No one gets killed for cussing their parents today.

Your point is moot.

Then explain why it is comprehensible that someone should be put to death just because they don't honour their parents.

@josephw said
What's more, you obviously scorn the idea of "honour thy father and mother", not just because it comes from a "God figure" you don't know exists, but because God places a higher premium on the institution, to the extent that if anyone that dishonors his father and mother should die.

This surely shouldn't apply in all cases, right? What about dysfunctional parents and families?

@josephw said
Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

It's odd how three little questions like that have got you so riled up and indignant.

@kellyjay said
[3] What about this? "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

This keeps our relationships healthy when our love for each other is behind our love for God.

Why would "hating" one's own "father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters" be a "healthy" relationship?

@kellyjay said
[2] When [what year or decade, approximately] did it become evil to execute people for contravening this commandment?

Evil is opposed to what is good; what are you suggesting good and evil changed over time for time's sake.

It's either still "good" to execute people for not honouring their parents or it is "evil" to do so. Has it "changed over time for time's sake"?

@kellyjay said
[1] This surely doesn't apply in all cases, right? What about dysfunctional parents and families?

Everyone without exception.

What if the parents have sexual intercourse with their children? Their children must not speak disrespectfully of them?

@kingdavid403 said
In the Greek Language, many words have several different meanings. One meaning for the word "hate" in the Greek language is: "to love less than." This is nothing but a translation problem from Greek to English. The New Testament was first written in Greek; they are the oldest Manuscripts of the New Testament.

So English translations are not "the word of God" and not divinely inspired? If that is so, why aren't Christians all around the world required by their God figure to become fluent in Greek?

@fmf said
Why would "hating" one's own "father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters" be a "healthy" relationship?

Our love for God should be above all other things and people without exception in a comparative nature; anything above our relationship with God takes us to idolatry.

@fmf said
In that case, when exactly did it become evil to execute people for contravening this commandment?

After 70 A.D.

But probably more properly after the 3rd deportation in 588 BC when Israel lost its sovereign nation status. Under Roman jurisdiction the Jews were not allowed to use capital punishment.

Question answered?

Why do you use the word "evil"? Why not unlawful? Doesn't fit your evil narrative does it?

@kellyjay said
Our love for God should be above all other things and people without exception in a comparative nature; anything above our relationship with God takes us to idolatry.

How is hating one's parents healthy?

@fmf said
What if the parents have sexual intercourse with their children? Their children must not speak disrespectfully of them?

Are you going to add what if, after what if, looking for something to prove we don't have to respect our parents? Find the loophole?

@josephw said
Why do you use the word "evil"?

Because my question is about evil.

@fmf said
Then explain why it is comprehensible that someone should be put to death just because they don't honour their parents.

It's incomprehensible for you to understand.

Nice twist on what I said. You know you did it. No integrity.