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Originally posted by RJHinds
You have your own world view too.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
And the problem is you are both profoundly brainwashed into thinking your world view is THE correct world view. Neither one of you has the slightest doubt you could be wrong.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
And the problem is you are both profoundly brainwashed into thinking your world view is THE correct world view. Neither one of you has the slightest doubt you could be wrong.
I don't see the problem. 😏

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
Finally a Christian who can admit the Bible endorses slavery. 🙂
Dinesh D'Souza asnwers question on Christianity and Slavery.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't see the problem. 😏
Of course, that is the fundamental nature of profound brainwashing you find yourself in.

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Originally posted by jaywill
Dinesh D'Souza asnwers question on Christianity and Slavery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTyKF5_lvzY&feature=relmfu
not very well. dan barker counters with crushing points to which d'souza is unable to account for.

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Some words from the buddha may or may not assist here:

(In reference to spiritual adepts), he said something like there are 4 kinds of thinking about "buddhahood"* -

1. Those that think like stone. They are set in their ways and are hard to chisel away, etc.

2. Those that think like sand. They can make an impression, ( a thought or action), but it can be more easily moved and smoothed over by the wind, etc.

3. Those that think like water. Water has many analogies. It flows to the lowest point. Water can have an impression made but it will clear itself as the ripples of the thought(s) are radiated more easily to others but then automatically calmed. (many analogies with water !! this is where we should all aspire to)

4. Those that think in a way that cannot be described (or compared) by any of the preceeding ways before it. Only the adept knows (and a true Zen master ) whether one is really thinking like this or not. (there are many that try to fake it and only really delude themselves, and maybe e few other 'silly ones'.)


*Please not that "buddhahood" is an interchangeable word with many other words.
If any students became attached to any of the words then the master would change the wording to things like "the universe" , "God" , " a bowl of rice ",etc. etc. There is no concrete word or thought here to accurately describe "buddhahood" , it is just a finger that points the way and the finger that points at the moon should not be mistaken for the moon itself, and so on .... 🙂

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Of course, that is the fundamental nature of profound brainwashing you find yourself in.
Well, did you at least appreciate my comment on your blitz games on the Chess Forum?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Well, did you at least appreciate my comment on your blitz games on the Chess Forum?
I expected black to take with king but he lost rook instead. I was waiting with the other knight to check and then NXpawn,etc. I could afford to ignore the attack on the black knight. Shallow Blue answered your comments best I think.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
rjh is not blind he simply has his own world view.
But He does not express a view, he spouts blatantly abusive comments about monkeys and shouts halleluya, I appreciate He makes you look good but that is no reason for me to show his views any more respect than he shows mine.

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Originally posted by kevcvs57
But He does not express a view, he spouts blatantly abusive comments about monkeys and shouts halleluya, I appreciate He makes you look good but that is no reason for me to show his views any more respect than he shows mine.
Why should you crave respect from another? Cultivating self respect seems to me to
be much more important than what others think of us. How abusive are RJH
comments, they seem to me to amount to nothing more than one encounters in the
school playground, perhaps Id go as far to say as innocuous. Agreed its hard to reason
with such an individual, but sometimes that's the way of it.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Why should you crave respect from another? Cultivating self respect seems to me to
be much more important than what others think of us. How abusive are RJH
comments, they seem to me to amount to nothing more than one encounters in the
school playground, perhaps Id go as far to say as innocuous. Agreed its hard to reason
with such an individual, but sometimes that's the way of it.
You are right, he is a joke, he should be down in my old home town on the beach on a soap box with the rest of the crazies on Venice Beach.

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Originally posted by VoidSpirit
not very well. dan barker counters with crushing points to which d'souza is unable to account for.
In your fantasies. Barker is not all that weighty.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
You are right, he is a joke, he should be down in my old home town on the beach on a soap box with the rest of the crazies on Venice Beach.
I never said he was a joke, I like him!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Why should you crave respect from another? Cultivating self respect seems to me to
be much more important than what others think of us. How abusive are RJH
comments, they seem to me to amount to nothing more than one encounters in the
school playground, perhaps Id go as far to say as innocuous. Agreed its hard to reason
with such an individual, but sometimes that's the way of it.
No I dont crave respect from anyone, but you seem to want different criteria for RJH for some reason, I do not give his rantings and halleluyas the same respect as I would someone who, however deluded (and I accept this may include me) at least makes the effort to enter into a debate rather than issue a closed statement every time he is faced with reasoned opposition.

I do not have an issue with his world view, just the way he expresses it.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I expected black to take with king but he lost rook instead. I was waiting with the other knight to check and then NXpawn,etc. I could afford to ignore the attack on the black knight. Shallow Blue answered your comments best I think.
I made comments on more than one of your posted games.