Originally posted by @fmfAll must be forgiven by man who hath not the ability to judge.
This seems a bit fridge magnet-like to me. But so be it. What about egregious wrong, unrepentant wrongdoers, permanent harm, personal betrayal, family feuds and so on? What about some nitty gritty of 'how to forgive' rather than flimsy stuff about posting styles and sarcasm on a message board?
If you complicate this with exceptions you will be a lonely person.
If you can practice perfect forgiveness you will lose like five kilograms of weight from your shoulders
Take a chill pill.
Maybe the spirituality could really use some extraneous and non-serious posting.
This is like the one Forum in the world where you can't type the word for poop that starts with "s" but you can ad hominem the living heck out of every other member without consequence.
Let's open the windows and let in some sunshine.
Originally posted by @philokaliaWhy don't you just go ahead and post the way you see fit? Nothing stopping you. And then you can just ignore people who don't 'get' you or people who are unimpressed by you.
Take a chill pill.
Maybe the spirituality could really use some extraneous and non-serious posting.
This is like the one Forum in the world where you can't type the word for poop that starts with "s" but you can ad hominem the living heck out of every other member without consequence.
Let's open the windows and let in some sunshine.
Originally posted by @philokaliaIs this an example of the kind of "extraneous and non-serious posting" you hanker after and intend to contribute?
This is like the one Forum in the world where you can't type the word for poop that starts with "s" but you can ad hominem the living heck out of every other member without consequence. .
-Removed-I have noticed, with Christians, that they tend to fall in to two camps on this issue:
1. Forgiveness is the Christian thing to do. No caveats. (in line with 'For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.' )
2. They link forgiveness with vengeance/divine punishment. - This way they can forgive someone who sins against them with their mouth, but in their heart is saying "Sure I forgive you, but only in the security that God will punish you for all eternity in the fires of hell).
The second group of Christians, in my opinion, are not demonstrating the forgiveness asked of them by Christ. It is a defamation of his message.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYou haven’t met many Christians or misunderstand their positions based on your atheism.
I have noticed, with Christians, that they tend to fall in to two camps on this issue:
1. Forgiveness is the Christian thing to do. No caveats. (in line with 'For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.' )
2. They link forgiveness with vengeance/divine punishment. - This way they can f ...[text shortened]... re not demonstrating the forgiveness asked of them by Christ. It is a defamation of his message.
Originally posted by @romans1009Says the Christian who raised vengeance in a thread about forgiveness.
You haven’t met many Christians or misunderstand their positions based on your atheism.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThe vengeance belongs to God. People who take the Bible seriously take the verse that says do not avenge yourselves seriously.
Says the Christian who raised vengeance in a thread about forgiveness.
God as a perfect and perfectly holy and just God will mete out whatever justice is appropriate. People who believe that don’t relish the punishment happening; they just recognize justice will take place.