j.w's and the number 144,000

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
the programming you received from your family and culture. knowledge of god didn't descend upon you from heaven, you were programmed to believe in it.

You apparently think your programming is better than ours. 😏

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
the programming you received from your family and culture. knowledge of god didn't descend upon you from heaven, you were programmed to believe in it.

When did God descend or not descend on me?

Originally posted by galveston75
When did God descend or not descend on me?

my guess is that your training started early on. you were taught what to believe, not how to think.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You apparently think your programming is better than ours. 🙄

better than yours certainly.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
my guess is that your training started early on. you were taught what to believe, not how to think.

Well you are wrong and obviously don't know much at all about me or the JW's.

Originally posted by galveston75
Well you are wrong and obviously don't know much at all about me or the JW's.

So you used to think rationally but lately lost the ability?

Originally posted by sonhouse
So you used to think rationally but lately lost the ability?

gold.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So you used to think rationally but lately lost the ability?

Lol.... so now we are resorting to personal attacks. How predictable when all else fails huh?

Originally posted by galveston75
Lol.... so now we are resorting to personal attacks. How predictable when all else fails huh?

That is a common tactic of the Liberals. You should learn how to do it too. It makes them hate your guts. he he he 😀

Originally posted by galveston75
Lol.... so now we are resorting to personal attacks. How predictable when all else fails huh?

Not aimed at you, just all the 'born again' ones.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Not aimed at you, just all the 'born again' ones.

That's good as I'm not 'born again'.

Originally posted by galveston75
That's good as I'm not 'born again'.

Jesus said the only way you can enter the Kingdom is that you must be born again or literally You must be born from above



JOHN 3 The New Birth

3 Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews; 2 this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “ Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.” 3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

4 Nicodemus *said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

9 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be?” 10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and do not understand these things?

Manny

Just saying

Originally posted by menace71
Jesus said the only way you can enter the Kingdom is that you must be born again or literally You must be born from above



JOHN 3 The New Birth

3 Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews; 2 this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “ Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can ...[text shortened]... him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and do not understand these things?

Manny

Just saying

Yes one has to be born again. No contest there. But being born again or to be born into a new type of life, a spiritual one from a fleshly life is not for all. This is where the "little flock/144,000" comes in. They are the chosen ones Jesus spoke of continually. He also spoke of the "great crowd" and these are not the ones to be born again into a new spirit life. These are the ones to survive aregeddon and live on earth.
No where in the Bible does this term being "born again " ever apply to all humans in general.
I am not of the "little flock" so being born again will not apply to me.
So if one feels they are of this "little flock" then you will be born again once you die and your fleshly body is gone and you will be resurrected to heaven to rule with Jesus. But being born again does not happen to anyone who is still a human and alive in this planet. It only happens at ones death. Make sence?