Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The Grand Lodge officially stated that Russell was not a Freemason.
Russell was not a freemason. Neither the symbols found in the Watchtower nor the cross and crown symbol are exclusively masonic. And the cross and crown symbol does not appear on his gravestone in the Rosemont United Cemetery, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania — it appears on a memorial er ...[text shortened]... u feed your mind on garbage, you end up spouting the very same. Let it serve as a lesson to you.
Some pushback from Robbie:
The Grand Lodge officially stated that Russell was not a Freemason.
Where can I see that ?
Russell was not a freemason. Neither the symbols found in the Watchtower nor the cross and crown symbol are exclusively masonic.
I'll give you a fair hearing. But with all your criticism of the cross and all your insistence that Jesus died on a torture stake - WHY on earth do you have a CROSS on Russell's memorial ?
I would think that your teacher Russell would have wanted that to be the last thing to honor him with.
And the cross and crown symbol does not appear on his gravestone in the Rosemont United Cemetery, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania — it appears on a memorial erected some years later.
True. It is not his gravestone. But it is near it and is a memorial to him. Why don't you JWs rally the "prudent and faithful servant" class and insist that the cross be removed ?
They're the ones teaching you all to go into people's homes and suspicion them about the symbol of the CROSS.
In an address delivered in a San Francisco masonic hall in 1913, Russell made positive use of masonic imagery by saying, "Now, I am a free and accepted mason. I trust we all are. But not just after the style of our masonic brethren."
So if he was disowned by the Masons latter (if indeed he was) at that time at least he aspired or boasted of being one of them. Am I right ?
Perhaps, the Masons latter felt to distance themselves from Russell.
He further develops this idea: "true Bible believers may or may not belong to the masonic fraternity, but they are all masons of the highest order, since they are being fashioned, chiselled and polished by the Almighty to be used as living stones in the Temple Built Without Hands. They are free from sin, and therefore accepted by the God of Heaven as fit stones for the heavenly Temple." Later in this address, Russell stated quite clearly that "I have never been a mason." Those who claim Russell was a freemason quote this address out of context without noting the rhetorical imagery.
Your explanation I will consider as I look into it more.
Although Russell wrote about the pyramids and the Knights Templar, the pyramids are not a part of Freemasonry and Russell’s understanding of the relationship between the modern Knights Templar and Freemasonry displays an outsider’s ignorance of both organizations.
http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/anti-masonry03.html
See what happens when you feed your mind on garbage, you end up spouting the very same. Let it serve as a lesson to you.
Is
Acts 8:37 dropped out of your New World Translation?
If so, why if you teach Jesus is the Son of God?
Isaiah 9:6 you teach is not about Jehovah being the Mighty God. Would you please quote below from your translation
Isaiah 10:21. Who does it say is the mighty God?