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Originally posted by KazetNagorraCan you tell us what makes them a cult?
The answer is "no," JWs are just one of many Christian cults.
Originally posted by sonshipI still don't get it. What is it a objection (albeit weak) too? It was merely a correction.
The memorial is quite close to the gravestone. Making a rational that the symbol is NOT on the gravestone, is an accurate objection. But I think it is a "weak" one.
Originally posted by sonshipSo what if they are? Does that mean you can now denounce them as from the devil or something?
The thread title is a genuine question.
[b] Proof: Charles Taze Russell & Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower is Masonic Gnosticism
The video recommended is one demonstrating that the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses was a Masonic Gnostic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSofpcdjj_s[/b]
Originally posted by sonhouseMany Christians do not get along with each other. In my home town, population approx 200,000 (more than half of which are children), there are approximately 150 denominations.
So what if they are? Does that mean you can now denounce them as from the devil or something?
What is it with you and others here trying to denounce JW's? Seems to me you should be calling them brothers, maybe cousins but why denounce them?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have no idea nor do I care.
To us Brother Russell is just like any other Witness. Many of his teachings were sound, many of them were not and have been discarded over time.
But what is striking about his may of teaching as opposed to TV Evangelists who use feigned emotional content is that he always appeals to reason.
Originally posted by sonhouseWhat would we do without some atheist champions of tolerance coming around with crocodile tears?
So what if they are? Does that mean you can now denounce them as from the devil or something?
What is it with you and others here trying to denounce JW's? Seems to me you should be calling them brothers, maybe cousins but why denounce them?
Originally posted by twhiteheadWould you like it is we place a stone sculpture of a Bible and perhaps a cross on your grave stone?
I still don't get it. What is it a objection (albeit weak) too? It was merely a correction.
What does the symbol appearing on the grave site or memorial signify? What does it tell us about the beliefs of the person who died? Who put it there?
You seem to think the existence of a symbol on the gravesite or memorial and the proximity of the memorial someh ...[text shortened]... raw attention to the connection. It is after all called a memorial to him.
By whom and why?[/b]
Originally posted by twhitehead
You seem to think the existence of a symbol on the gravesite or memorial and the proximity of the memorial somehow demonstrates something. On the contrary, it is interesting, but without knowing more, it tells us nothing of interest with regards to the question of the OP.
The Bible Student movement is the name adopted by a Millennialist[1] Restorationist Christian movement that emerged from the teachings and ministry of Charles Taze Russell, also known as Pastor Russell. Members of the movement have variously referred to themselves as Bible Students, International Bible Students, Associated Bible Students, or Independent Bible Students. The origins of the movement are associated with the formation of Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society in 1881.
Originally posted by sonshipJaywill you have been caught posting material that is not only blatantly false but ignores every fact provided for your convenience. Russell was not nor ever was a Freemason. I am sorry to burst your bubble but its a simple fact corroborated by the organisations involved. The source that you got the reference from makes ludicrous claims in the most sensationalistic manner stating that Freemasons are and I quote, ' expert liars through unholy rituals that make them unrepentant demoniacally possessed duplicitous goat servants of the Devil'. Now while such rhetoric may appeal to those nurtured on emotionalism but for us accustomed to reason its simply nonsense and has been rightly condemned by every one here as a monstrous perversion of the facts.
Robbie while you say you know about the pyramid in memorial to Russell but care not, this fellow felt differently. He says he knew, was bothered, looked up some things at least.
He says everyone in the Witnesses knew about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56yTEriTa6Y
Originally posted by sonshipSo we were formerly known as the International Bible students, so what? What would you have us call ourselves the Bonzo dog doo-dah band?You seem to think the existence of a symbol on the gravesite or memorial and the proximity of the memorial somehow demonstrates something. On the contrary, it is interesting, but without knowing more, it tells us nothing of interest with regards to the question of the OP.
What is written on the pyramid is significant.
Watchtower Bibl ...[text shortened]... s Watch Tower Tract Society in 1881. [/quote]
-Wiki
The plot thickens. (No pun intended).
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Jaywill you have been caught posting material that is not only blatantly false but ignores every fact provided for your convenience. Russell was not nor ever was a Freemason. I am sorry to burst your bubble but its a simple fact corroborated by the organisations involved. The source that you got the reference from makes ludicrous claims in the mos ...[text shortened]... il you denounce this one for you are appearing to be a kind of charlatan purveyor of falsehoods.
Jaywill you have been caught posting material that is not only blatantly false but ignores every fact provided for your convenience. Russell was not nor ever was a Freemason.
I am sorry to burst your bubble but its a simple fact corroborated by the organisations involved. The source that you got the reference from makes ludicrous claims in the most sensationalistic manner stating that Freemasons are and I quote, ' expert liars through unholy rituals that make them unrepentant demoniacally possessed duplicitous goat servants of the Devil'.
Now while such rhetoric may appeal to those nurtured on emotionalism but for us accustomed to reason its simply nonsense and has been rightly condemned by every one here as a monstrous perversion of the facts.
Please don't expect me to read any more references until you denounce this one for you are appearing to be a kind of charlatan purveyor of falsehoods.