Originally posted by chaney3
The thief on the cross, who Jesus saved, did not mock Him. The other 'criminal' did, and the crowd did, but NOT the thief.

Just for a moment, read the following in the context of somebody being sarcastic and mocking:

"Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

Jesus then answers in a similar sarcastic manner:

“Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

Originally posted by Suzianne
Tell that to your "Christian" friend. The one whom you support because he doesn't believe in Christianity either. The one who is endlessly telling us that this or that is "not in the Bible". The one who worships the Bible, instead of the One whom the Bible is about.

You mean the one who often speaks common sense?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Just for a moment, read the following in the context of somebody being sarcastic and mocking:

"Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

Jesus th ...[text shortened]... ers in a similar sarcastic manner:

“Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

I don't get a sense of sarcasm there.
And in the context of the situation, with nails driven through limbs and death looming, and severe pain, it would not seem like a very good scenario for sarcasm.

Originally posted by chaney3
I don't get a sense of sarcasm there.
And in the context of the situation, with nails driven through limbs and death looming, and severe pain, it would not seem like a very good scenario for sarcasm.

Perhaps you merely underestimate divine humour?

'The LORD laughs at the wicked, for he sees that their day is coming.'

Psalm 37:13

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Perhaps you merely underestimate divine humour?

'The LORD laughs at the wicked, for he sees that their day is coming.'

Psalm 37:13

What is 'wicked'?

What if the Lord views someone as wicked who is "unconvinced of His existence"?

Originally posted by chaney3
What is 'wicked'?

What if the Lord views someone as wicked who is "unconvinced of His existence"?

God has written his law on the very heart of the unbeliever. Would he have done that to something he viewed as wicked?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Perhaps you merely underestimate divine humour?

'The LORD laughs at the wicked, for he sees that their day is coming.'

Psalm 37:13

Love that passage 😀

Originally posted by chaney3
What is 'wicked'?

What if the Lord views someone as wicked who is "unconvinced of His existence"?

"Whoever is not with me is against me."

Being 'unconvinced' would surely be considered as 'not with'.

Originally posted by Tom Wolsey
"Whoever is not with me is against me."

Being 'unconvinced' would surely be considered as 'not with'.

But not quite the same as 'wicked,' hey?

'But He, being compassionate, forgave their iniquity and did not destroy them; And often He restrained His anger And did not arouse all His wrath.'

Psalm 78:38

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
But not quite the same as 'wicked,' hey?

'But He, being compassionate, forgave their iniquity and did not destroy them; And often He restrained His anger And did not arouse all His wrath.'

Psalm 78:38

Yes, being against Christ--and all that comes with it--would evidently be wicked according to his standards. Lots of forgiveness during our our lifetime. Apparently zero forgiveness for being his enemy and staying an unrepentant enemy all the way to the last breath.

Originally posted by Tom Wolsey
Yes, being against Christ--and all that comes with it--would evidently be wicked according to his standards. Lots of forgiveness during our our lifetime. Apparently zero forgiveness for being his enemy and staying an unrepentant enemy all the way to the last breath.

I'm open to God's existence.

The fact i remain unconvinced is His failing, not mine. (Your description of Him makes Him sound rather petty and vindictive,...which doesn't help his cause).

Originally posted by Tom Wolsey
Yes, being against Christ--and all that comes with it--would evidently be wicked according to his standards. Lots of forgiveness during our our lifetime. Apparently zero forgiveness for being his enemy and staying an unrepentant enemy all the way to the last breath.

How do you define being against Christ?

Originally posted by Rajk999
Its because she cannot debate doctrine. She lacks the ability to carry on a normal discussion and worse, lack the ammunition to present points which counter some of the doctrine preached by Christ and the Apostles. She just cannot argue with that and she knows it. But its not a easy thing for someone to come along and pull the security rug from under your fe ...[text shortened]... ed their church handbook but now questions are being raised in their minds .. its a hard road ..

/eyeroll

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
You mean the one who often speaks common sense?

Clearly, you see him differently than he shows himself in this forum. Could that be because he speaks 'glowingly' (and wrongly) about atheists? He strangely shepherds his flock of unbelievers while purposefully attacking Christians here. Yes, he 'tends' you well.

Originally posted by Rajk999
How do you define being against Christ?

The Scripture has already been posted. Christ said, "Whoever is not with me is against me."