Originally posted by SuzianneDo you imagine that the parents of the 31 dead children prayed that their children would be safe?
God answers almost all prayers. Sometimes the answer is "no".
If they did, and "sometimes the answer [from God] is 'no'", do you still believe there was no involvement on the part of your God figure.
Originally posted by SuzianneBut is this a coherent belief about good and bad, your God's "will", and the purpose and effect of prayer? I don't think it is. I think what you are saying is profoundly incoherent.
As soon as something good and miraculous comes from this tragedy, you be sure and let me know, then I might consider that it was God's will, not before.
Originally posted by FMFThey may have, they may not have. Maybe God answered "no", maybe he didn't answer at all. Perhaps the parents of these children were unrepentant sinners who didn't have God's ear to begin with.
Do you imagine that the parents of the 31 dead children prayed that their children would be safe?
If they did, and "sometimes the answer [from God] is 'no'", do you still believe there was no involvement on the part of your God figure.
Too many maybes to know. Do you know?
Originally posted by FMFIt's your right to think what you want. As it's my right to think you're being unreasonable.
But is this a coherent belief about good and bad, your God's "will", and the purpose and effect of prayer? I don't think it is. I think what you are saying is profoundly incoherent.
To a non-believer, faith is hardly coherent. I'm not going to lose sleep over a non-believer calling me incoherent.
Originally posted by SuzianneAre the children of parents who are "unrepentant sinners" more or less likely to die in this way ~ despite prayers asking that such a thing never happens? Does your God figure ignore the prayers of "sinners"?
They may have, they may not have. Maybe God answered "no", maybe he didn't answer at all. Perhaps the parents of these children were unrepentant sinners who didn't have God's ear to begin with.
Too many maybes to know. Do you know?
Originally posted by SuzianneIs you saying you're "not going to lose sleep" over this supposed to make your beliefs regarding good, bad, God's "will", and prayer, a little bit more coherent, and make me seem "unreasonable"?
It's your right to think what you want. As it's my right to think you're being unreasonable.
To a non-believer, faith is hardly coherent. I'm not going to lose sleep over a non-believer calling me incoherent.