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Originally posted by sonshipGood point, I do take Eladar's complaints seriously he brought out scripture and rightfully
Sometimes Christians can get into a mode of "Who hates sin the more?"
This is something like:
"Well I can out hate sin more than you."
"No, I can out hate sin more than you. "
What Christians really need is the love of LIVING Christ.
The wrath of man doesn't work the righteousness of God.
And death is something God hates a ...[text shortened]... n only in competition with each other is not of much use to the building up of His Body.
divided it in my opinion. I was only having issues with what he "seems" to see.
Originally posted by KellyJayWhere do you accept sin?
Where did you see me say I ignore sin?
You "seem" to see a lot of things, be they there or not.
If you want to right me off, do so, don't make things up to feel justified, you really don't need a reason.
Just say you don't like my views, me, whatever, and move on, I don't care.
When you claim Suzi is a Christian after she claims to support gay marriage and homosexuality as being an acceptable lifestyle. She even supports abortion and does not believe killing your unborn child is sinful.
Yet you recognize her as a Christian.
Originally posted by EladarI don't accept sin period, you suggesting otherwise is all between your ears.
Where do you accept sin?
When you claim Suzi is a Christian after she claims to support gay marriage and homosexuality as being an acceptable lifestyle. She even supports abortion and does not believe killing your unborn child is sinful.
Yet you recognize her as a Christian.
What Suzi says and does is on Suzi, as what I say and do is on me, and you are no
different. I told you that God works with sinners, do you think that applies to everyone, but
her, but those that have sins they have not let go of yet? So am I to understand no one
can be right with God in your eyes unless they are perfect from the word go in their walk
with God? You one of those once a sinner always a sinner Christians, on the other side
of once saved always saved Christians who believe they can sin no matter what and still
be saved?
God will cut off the sinner who chooses sin over God, what else will a Holy God do? He
is not going to put up with sin, one was all it took to throw our whole race into this sinful
mess we currently find ourselves in.
I know she supports abortion we have argued over that, I believe its a life as soon as the
process starts within the woman, that second! I believe the world is hoodwinked over a
lot of things, that being one of them. Just as I believe the hate currently showing itself all
over the world is being pushed by the demonic too. There are so many now holding others
guilty over sins others have done in the past, claiming because their ancestors were back
in the past mistreated now its their turn to mistreat others. Not knowing that their own
ancestors will condemn them on judgment day, when they say if you knew it was wrong
when it was done to us, why do you think you were right when you did the same thing!
If you are going to condemn someone before God is done with them, than I hope that
does not happen to you!
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Originally posted by KellyJayThe Bible states that we are to judge those who claim to be Christian. You refuse to do so.
I don't accept sin period, you suggesting otherwise is all between your ears.
What Suzi says and does is on Suzi, as what I say and do is on me, and you are no
different. I told you that God works with sinners, do you think that applies to everyone, but
her, but those that have sins they have not let go of yet? So am I to understand no one
can be righ ...[text shortened]... going to condemn someone before God is done with them, than I hope that
does not happen to you!
Our society says judging others is evil. The Bible says judging those who claim to be Christian is good.
If you accept Suzi the way she is at the moment as being a Christian you agree with her about salvation issues. You agree with her that you can be in a gay marriage and sexually active can enter heaven. You believe that teaching a young woman to kill her unborn child is not teaching another to sin. You join with her teaching others to sin.
Originally posted by EladarThe Bible only mentions the word 'Christian" 3 times.
The Bible states that we are to judge those who claim to be Christian. You refuse to do so.
Our society says judging others is evil. The Bible says judging those who claim to be Christian is good.
If you accept Suzi the way she is at the moment as being a Christian you agree with her about salvation issues. You agree with her that you can be in a gay m ...[text shortened]... kill her unborn child is not teaching another to sin. You join with her teaching others to sin.
Why are you claiming that the Bible claims to say that we are to judge 'supposed Christians'?
Originally posted by chaney3It isn't us that declares who a Christian is, God does by giving those that turn to Him, His
There is NO clear definition of what a Christian is.
Holy Spirit. It is those that are walking with God, obeying Him, working the works of God
being led by God's Spirit. If you want definitions I suggest find a dictionary, if you want
God I suggest Jesus Christ.
Originally posted by EladarThe scripture tells me not to judge another's servant, he or she will stand or fall by their
The Bible states that we are to judge those who claim to be Christian. You refuse to do so.
Our society says judging others is evil. The Bible says judging those who claim to be Christian is good.
If you accept Suzi the way she is at the moment as being a Christian you agree with her about salvation issues. You agree with her that you can be in a gay m ...[text shortened]... kill her unborn child is not teaching another to sin. You join with her teaching others to sin.
master not by me. Please give verses if you are going to suggest we are to do something
according to scripture.
Romans 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Originally posted by EladarJudge me for the words I say, don't claim I support things I do not. If you have an issue
The Bible states that we are to judge those who claim to be Christian. You refuse to do so.
Our society says judging others is evil. The Bible says judging those who claim to be Christian is good.
If you accept Suzi the way she is at the moment as being a Christian you agree with her about salvation issues. You agree with her that you can be in a gay m ...[text shortened]... kill her unborn child is not teaching another to sin. You join with her teaching others to sin.
I suggest you quote me and tell me this is what "seems" to you I mean, and I'll agree or
disagree with you and tell you why.
Again, what Suzi says is on her, not me, the words I use I will be judged for as will you
and your words. I suggest you keep your focus on who you are talking too, and just stick
to those things they say, and NOT put words they didn't say and accuse them of things
they may not agree with.
Originally posted by EladarAnd I recognize you as a modern-day Pharisee.
Where do you accept sin?
When you claim Suzi is a Christian after she claims to support gay marriage and homosexuality as being an acceptable lifestyle. She even supports abortion and does not believe killing your unborn child is sinful.
Yet you recognize her as a Christian.
Condemning others yet not giving the slightest care for the beam in your own eye.
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Originally posted by KellyJayThose are over debatable matters.
The scripture tells me not to judge another's servant, he or she will stand or fall by their
master not by me. Please give verses if you are going to suggest we are to do something
according to scripture.
Romans 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Do you believe that homosexuality being sinful is a debatable matter?
I already gave you the scripture with 1 Corinthians 5.