1. PenTesting
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    14 Jul '17 01:04
    Originally posted by whodey
    No, I'm pretty sure he will consult Raj before he makes his decisions.
    If he consults with sonship, josephw or you, then there is no need for a book of life.

    Christians - good and evil - eternal life
    Everyone else - good or evil - eternal torment
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    14 Jul '17 01:07
    Originally posted by Eladar
    On judgement day alone.

    We do not know the future. We can be confident that we are on the correct road, but we do not know that for sure. Even if we are on the right road, no one knows the future.

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    Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
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    What I call Group 1 people - the elect of God, are chosen from the foundation of the world and they know their fate, and are secure

    Not all Christians are in this group
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    14 Jul '17 01:16
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    What I call Group 1 people - the elect of God, are chosen from the foundation of the world and they know their fate, and are secure

    Not all Christians are in this group
    They know their fate?

    Is this in the Bible, or is this just a personal belief.
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    14 Jul '17 01:28
    Originally posted by Eladar
    They know their fate?

    Is this in the Bible, or is this just a personal belief.
    It's in the bible.

    Read the New Testament and we will discuss it. If not I will assume that you are not interested.

    Have you never heard of those who are eternally secure ?
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    14 Jul '17 01:30
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    It's in the bible.

    Read the New Testament and we will discuss it. If not I will assume that you are not interested.

    Have you never heard of those who are eternally secure ?
    Libtards are all the same.
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    14 Jul '17 01:42
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Libtards are all the same.
    Never heard that word.. libtard. What's That? Pretty sure it's not in the bible.
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    14 Jul '17 01:59
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Never heard that word.. libtard. What's That? Pretty sure it's not in the bible.
    The Bible calls them by other names....

    Wolves in sheep's clothing

    Children of Satan

    Of course these terms are used to describe other groups too. Libtards are simply a subset.
  8. PenTesting
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    14 Jul '17 02:46
    Originally posted by Eladar
    The Bible calls them by other names....

    Wolves in sheep's clothing

    Children of Satan

    Of course these terms are used to describe other groups too. Libtards are simply a subset.
    Well Im none of those.
    Im a sheep in wolves clothing.

    Have you read the New Testament yet?
    You found the part/s where some people have eternal security?
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    14 Jul '17 03:49
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Well Im none of those.
    Im a sheep in wolves clothing.

    Have you read the New Testament yet?
    You found the part/s where some people have eternal security?
    I know of the elect, I just don't know where they have been made known they are of the elect while alive.
  10. Standard memberKellyJay
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    14 Jul '17 10:45
    2 Timothy 1:6-8English Standard Version (ESV)
    For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the
    laying on of my hands, for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and
    self-control. Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, nor of me his
    prisoner, but share in suffering for the gospel by the power of God,
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    14 Jul '17 11:311 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    I know of the elect, I just don't know where they have been made known they are of the elect while alive.
    Jesus said to the 12 disciples that they will sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel., and to the 70 that their names are written in the book of life. Paul said that a crown of righteousness is laid up for him. All of the patriachs and prophets of ofd were told either directly or indirectly that they are one of Gods boys/girls. Mary being chosen to bear Jesus. What does that say to Mary, and Elizabeth who bare John.

    Im pretty sure that there are people today as well who have had direct dealings with Christ who has appeared to them. Certainly many claim that they have had this experience but they are shysters.
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