New Testament

Originally posted by galveston75
So no God does not talk to me or anyone on this planet at this time. His son Jesus is the one thru prayer that we talk to his Father and then it is Jehovah's spirit that works to dispence any spiritual information to us and to let ones who are very willing to work with those directions, learn and then teach others.

So it wasn't God who told you about the League of Nations? It was Jesus? Or "Jehovah's spirit"? Or was it what you call the "appropriate people in the line on down to us" who told you about the League of Nations? Only a couple of posts ago you said "I have not inserted anything. We have asked God to help us understand this as well as the rest of the Bible. With God's help these explinations become clearer and clearer. To those who truly ask God to help understand, it all falls into place and makes sense." But now here you are saying "God does not talk to me or anyone" - which is to be?

Originally posted by galveston75
Good point my friend. She was tricked but Adam was not and made that decision to turn against God with a clear mind. His problem is he loved Eve more then God.

Interesting point. Yet, after closely reading the scripture and prayer, I was thinking that while Adam found Eve beautiful and was sexually attracted to her, he was not in love with her. And, strikingly, Adam was repulsed by Eve's action but chose to follow her because he mistakenly though God wanted him to. In all, it was definitely Eve who was in the transgression as Paul indicated, and that women must pay a price forever.

Originally posted by moon1969
Interesting point. Yet, after closely reading the scripture and prayer, I was thinking that while Adam found Eve beautiful and was sexually attracted to her, he was not in love with her. And, strikingly, Adam was repulsed by Eve's action but chose to follow her because he mistakenly though God wanted him to. In all, it was definitely Eve who was in the transgression as Paul indicated, and that women must pay a price forever.

Well to be fair in reality no one knows how Adam felt for Eve. But I would guess that he would have cared for her more then a brother & sister relationship. I think one could safely bet that they would have feelings of love. Why not? They were both perfect physically and no doubt were beautiful human beings.
One needs to put themselves in that situation with understanding. I personally know if I were alone and a beautiful woman came to me and I knew God was behind that arrangment, why wouldn't I develope feelings beyound just friendship? God made us to love and I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that was the case with them both. If not I think that would have been a strange result.
But when God did ask Adam what had happened, Adam did do a little u turn and blamed not only the woman but even God for giving her to him.
But I don't see any basis at all that Adam thought God wanted him to eat of that tree. I don't know where you get that.

Originally posted by FMF
So it wasn't God who told you about the League of Nations? It was Jesus? Or "Jehovah's spirit"? Or was it what you call the "appropriate people in the line on down to us" who told you about the League of Nations? Only a couple of posts ago you said "I have not inserted anything. We have asked God to help us understand this as well as the rest of the Bible. With ...[text shortened]... e." But now here you are saying "God does not talk to me or anyone" - which is to be?

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Originally posted by galveston75
One has to ask God for help. If one does not these will always be vague and a mystery to them just as the Bible says.

"One has to ask God for help"? But you've just said "God does not talk to me or anyone on this planet at this time." What you are saying does not add up.

Originally posted by FMF
"One has to ask God for help"? But you've just said "God does not talk to me or anyone on this planet at this time." What you are saying does not add up.

If I could stop you from posting questions to me, I would. But I can't. I just wish you'd grow up or whatever your problem is and move on and do something positive here on the forums. So far I've seen 0 with your input. I am not interested in discussing anything with you now or in the future and will not answer your questions.

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Originally posted by galveston75
If I could stop you from posting questions to me, I would. But I can't. I just wish you'd grow up or whatever your problem is and move on and do something positive here on the forums. So far I've seen 0 with your input. I am not interested in discussing anything with you now or in the future and will not answer your questions.

All you are doing is dodging questions that seek to scrutinize claims about yourself and God that you have made in this public forum. I seem to have got a bit too close to the arbitrary nature of your claims for your comfort. Hence the asterisks. But your contradictory claims are still circulating and are thus still subject to scrutiny.

You said "One has to ask God for help". And yet, you've also just said "God does not talk to me or anyone on this planet at this time." It seems you are only prepared to dodge and deflect when asked to explain this contradiction.

Originally posted by FMF
All you are doing is dodging questions that seek to scrutinize claims about yourself and God that you have made in this public forum. I seem to have got a bit too close to the arbitrary nature of your claims for your comfort. Hence the asterisks. But your contradictory claims are still circulating and are thus still subject to scrutiny.

You said "One has to a ...[text shortened]... seems you are only prepared to dodge and deflect when asked to explain this contradiction.

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Originally posted by galveston75
If I could stop you from posting questions to me, I would. But I can't.

The questions remain unanswered galveston75. Don't answer them if you don't want to or if you aren't able to. I will continue to raise similar questions. Maybe someone will try to step in and answer them for you. People will make what they will of your failure to address them. If you reckon your 'asterisks' approach to debate is effective and furthers your cause, then perhaps it will be effective and will further your cause.

Originally posted by galveston75
Not me personaly but why does that matter? Does the president have to tell you personally not to speed and obey the lasw of this country?
Does he not have the appropriate people in the line on down to us to let us know the laws and wishes of his position?

So no God does not talk to me or anyone on this planet at this time. His son Jesus is the one ...[text shortened]... us. In the past he has worked his will thru humans and there is no reason that he is not again.

So God communicates to certain people at the Watchtower by using his spirit?! Is that right? Would that be the Holy Spirit?

Who are these people at the Watchtower who God communicates with? Have you ever met one of them?

Originally posted by galveston75
Not me personaly but why does that matter? Does the president have to tell you personally not to speed and obey the lasw of this country?
Does he not have the appropriate people in the line on down to us to let us know the laws and wishes of his position?

So no God does not talk to me or anyone on this planet at this time. His son Jesus is the one ...[text shortened]... us. In the past he has worked his will thru humans and there is no reason that he is not again.

Robbie, O where for art thou Robbie?

Is this something you concur with Rob, God communicating with the Watchtower through the medium of his spirit?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
So God communicates to certain people at the Watchtower by using his spirit?! Is that right? Would that be the Holy Spirit?

Who are these people at the Watchtower who God communicates with? Have you ever met one of them?

This really bothers you doesn't it? Sorry that my comment does but not much more I can do from what I've explained.
But as I said, God has worked thru people and even nations with his direction and has communicated with them.
Again I ask you why is that so hard to understand that he can and still does this today? Please explain why you just can't believe it?

Originally posted by galveston75
This really bothers you doesn't it? Sorry that my comment does but not much more I can do from what I've explained.? But as I said, God has worked thru people and even nations with his direction and has communicated with them.

Are the people at the Watchtower organisation who God communicates with differentiated from the people at the Watchtower organisation who God does not communicate with. Is which-is-which or who-is-who a matter of public record? Does it affect their careers within the organisation?

One of the reasons I ask is that just a post or two above here you said "God does not talk to me or anyone on this planet at this time." And yet here you are claiming that God has "communicated" with people at the Watchtower organisation. Can you not see this contradiction on your part warrants discussion?

Originally posted by galveston75
If I could stop you from posting questions to me, I would. But I can't.

Thanks for the nasty PM galveston75. I will not post it here on the forum unless you send any more. I will however pass it on to some of the other regular posters so they can see the kind of PMs you send.

I believe that the claims you make about yourself and about God in this public forum need to questioned and scrutinized. You do not have to respond to my posts, but I don't see why I should remain silent over the contradictory and often arbitrary nature of the assertions you make.

I will attach my comments to the posts you make if the content of your post is the issue I am addressing. You don't need to answer. Maybe somebody else will step in and try to explain or answer on your behalf. There is no reason for me to be silent - at your behest - about any topic or material being debated on this forum... and nasty personal PMs are not going to stop me from participating in discussions here.