Originally posted by @black-beetle
OK, but I didn’t say that knowledgeable intent is required for evil actions. I said that all intentions, and all thoughts, and all actions are volition-depended. If one disagrees as regards this matter, then one rejects the hypothesis that free will holds –but that’s another story.
Therefore, since one’s “inherently good”, or “inherently neutral”, o ...[text shortened]... action is bad to the bone to the bunnies that lost their mom cause they ‘ll starve to death;
You believe we are chained by our make up? If one is "inherently" something, than that is
what they will do, be it "good", "neutral", or "bad"? That sounds more like there is no hope
to be, or do anything other than what one's nature tells them, I agree with you if I under
stand what your saying, our nature is our nature.
I think that Adam and Eve could have obeyed, they didn't, they were innocent, but they
were part of a very good Kingdom until the fall. After the fall, now people have within their
nature sin. If I understand your point, and I may not, that would mean that if you were
"inherently bad" you'd have no choice, except to remain that way.
With Christianity God came to save sinners, who by nature were/are inherently bad. The
requirement being God in us, literally, making us born again. I believe that Adam and Eve
were capable of doing what was required, but their volition would have had to be free to
do what they will, what they will in either direction good or evil. If this were not true that
means they were created to fall. That is what some believe I grant you, but I think not, it
would mean that they were without choice, they will be judged for choices they could not
avoid making. I believe God being good would not do that, the ability to choose, had to be
there for both directions.
Being bound by a nature to fall before sin means they were created with evil intent in
them, no choice was ever there. If judgment is true, if indeed God gave them the ability
to do anything than if means they could have gone either way.
They knew good in their walking with God before the fall, but evil had not tainted them
before the fall. They came to know that when they choose it, not before.