-Removed-Don't be such a jerk.
Seems we may agree on something.
I think predestination may be linked to providence. It is biblically evident that God is not benign, but is active in the affairs of men, in every conceivable way.
Man plays his part, and God will act one way or the other, sovereignly, not only accordingly, but in spite of man's cooperation.
Man needs to get with God's program, or get left behind.
-Removed-You quoted the verses, but what does it mean to be "predestinated"?
In Isaiah 46:10 God says, "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"
God knows everything there is to know past, present and future, and He acts, "declares", what shall be.
God "chooses" and "predestines" because He knew all those that would believe. I don't believe that means God "chose" who would believe, or who wouldn't, in the sense that He picked and caused, because then "freewill" would have no meaning.
The act of "choosing" and "predestinating" means God "declared" ,to be, the object to which one is "predestinated", to be "conformed" to.
It is God's will that all be saved, but because He knew from the beginning who would or wouldn't believe, God "declared" what, and in whom, believers would be "predestinated" to "be conformed" to.
@galveston75 saidWhen you use the word predestination, what is it you are asking?
1. We have no choice. God wrote a play, and we are doing our parts.
2. We choose a given right and gift; then those choices predestinated us to grace?
3. Something else?