Originally posted by galveston75You seem to be conceding, on this thread, that you are not among the "some on earth that would understand" this particular book.
But he does teach and with the Bible clearly explaining that his people would be of one mind and one belief, there would be some on earth that would understand what he shows us and we would all be in agreement.
Originally posted by galveston75Not at all. There are many people unconvinced of the authenticity of Revelation. Martin Luther was one of them I believe. I am sure you are aware of the debate that surrounds the book.
Ok. Whatever...... Perhaps all that think that should look at the bible and see that IT IS THERE.......... What a cop out.
Originally posted by FMFYes it is. It's too tuff for most to understand and this is their way out. A complete cop out.
Not at all. There are many people unconvinced of the authenticity of Revelation. Martin Luther was one of them I believe. I am sure you are aware of the debate that surrounds the book.
Originally posted by FMFAnd by you stating what you just did you don't understand what I have said and I'm not going to repeat to you. Either you get it or you don't.
Why would I make any claim either way? It is you who started this thread and you who seems to be admitting that you don't understand it.
Originally posted by galveston75Having a book like Revelation that was "tuff for most to understand" spliced on to the canon hundreds of years after the relatively translucent teaching of Christ had been out there for all, was probably exactly what corporate Christianity had in mind, for empowering its technocratic clergy. Obviously, you are not going to want to entertain that possibility, but I don't believe pointing this perspective out (as long as I don't belabour it) is out of place on a thread like this. Certainly not a "cop out". I hold no candle whatsoever for Revelation, so there is no challenge that I am ducking.
Yes it is. It's too tuff for most to understand and this is their way out. A complete cop out.
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Originally posted by galveston75The reason I commented is because you started a thread asking for people's interpretations and then swatted each of them away one by one while continuing to purport to be genuinely curious about what other posters believed. You then slotted into your familiar the Bible clearly explain[s] that God's people would be of one mind and one belief, there would be some on earth that would understand what he shows us and we would all be in agreement routine. Are you one of the people "on earth" that understands it? Are you one of the ones who "would all be in agreement"? etc. etc. See what I mean? I just called you on it, that's all.
And by you stating what you just did you don't understand what I have said and I'm not going to repeat to you. Either you get it or you don't.
Originally posted by FMFJust what Satan wants humans to think....... "It's not important, doesn't fit, doesn't matter, too confusing, not gonna happen in our day".
Having a book like Revelation that was "tuff for most to understand" spliced on to the canon hundreds of years after the relatively translucent teaching of Christ had been out there for all, was probably exactly what corporate Christianity had in mind, for empowering its technocratic clergy. Obviously, you are not going to want to entertain that possibility, but ...[text shortened]... ". I hold no candle whatsoever for Revelation, so there is no challenge that I am ducking.
Originally posted by FMFYou'd bet your life on that? You know what goes on on the heavens between God and his son and the angels and all the issues at hand with satan? You who is only a lowy and imperfect human has this one of a kind special insight to all spiritual wisdom? Hummmm? I guess we should all be listening to you then it seems.
Nope. Not that "It's not important". Nothing like it. And nothing whatsoever to do with "Satan".
Originally posted by galveston75I cannot help but go back to my initial post on this thread.
You'd bet your life on that? You know what goes on on the heavens between God and his son and the angels and all the issues at hand with satan? You who is only a lowy and imperfect human has this one of a kind special insight to all spiritual wisdom? Hummmm? I guess we should all be listening to you then it seems.
You said: Just curious about everyones take on these verses? Any thoughts on what this is speaking of?
I said: It is prophesying the feelings and emotions that will be felt, as yet another great RHP forum battle begins, this one titled "Rev 12: 1-17."
Originally posted by galveston75This is a public forum. We all share our thoughts and ideas here. I have never claimed to have a "one of a kind special insight to all spiritual wisdom".
You who is only a lowy and imperfect human has this one of a kind special insight to all spiritual wisdom? Hummmm? I guess we should all be listening to you then it seems.