Originally posted by robbie carrobieOK, "tundra and vast empty spaces", fine by me. I understand your meaning.
Obviously a friendly golden eagle must have deposited the figure at FMF's feet. He appears to me to be a man that does not know how or why the figure of 10,000 is arrived at and one need simply ask him for evidence of his claims and they melt away leaving naught but tundra and vast empty spaces in their wake.
So here's another question.
Do you think Chinese civilization started after "The Flood" and was initiated by Noah's descendants?
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Originally posted by FMFhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Chinese_history
Chinese civilization ~ in China ~ dates back more than 10,000 years.
As can be seen from the article from Wikipedia, any time before 2194 B.C. is a part of Chinese mythology and can't be trusted. This time date is clearly long after the worldwide flood of Noah's day. This would be about 4200 years ago and bible scholars generally estimate the worldwide flood to be 4400 - 4500 years ago.
Here is one study:
http://davelivingston.com/flooddate.htm
Originally posted by RJHindsNo one is talking about "Chinese mythology". We are talking about human settlement and civilization in China stretching back to Neolithic times and earlier.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Chinese_history
As can be seen from the article from Wikipedia, any time before 2194 B.C. is a part of Chinese mythology and can't be trusted. This time date is clearly long after the worldwide flood of Noah's day.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIf you take that to Genesis, then God knew before he created the universe Eve would take that fatal bite.
"Election" means chosen, selected, set apart for privilege and is the plan of God for believers in Christ. Election is God's agreement with His foreknowledge: His omniscience which knew before the fact who would choose to believe in Christ.
Knowing that, why would a god set up a trap like that in the first place?
Originally posted by sonhouseIt wasn't a trap, it was something she knew and Adam knew. There was
If you take that to Genesis, then God knew before he created the universe Eve would take that fatal bite.
Knowing that, why would a god set up a trap like that in the first place?
no temptation by God to go for that fruit, they were warned. It was a
very simple thing, don't do this, if you do, this will happen.
The trap if any was Satan suggesting that God was lying.
Kell
Originally posted by FMF10,000 years, tell us how you arrived at the figure.
OK, "tundra and vast empty spaces", fine by me. I understand your meaning.
So here's another question.
Do you think Chinese civilization started after "The Flood" and was initiated by Noah's descendants?
Originally posted by vivifyChristians do the right thing, it's these "claimed" Christians, or evil men "posing" as Christians that are the problem. God does guide Christians. Exactly what would you have Him do about these evil men? Stop their hearts in their sleep? One reason evil exists is to weed out the weakest Christians. Another reason evil exists is to temper, or strengthen, Christians.
If there truly is an "all-powerful" and "all-knowing" and loving god that will guide Christians with his spirit, then Christianity should not have been a major cause of evil, no matter how many "evil men" were around. God should've had the power and the knowledge necessary to stop those evil men, and should've guided Christians into the doing the right thing with his Spirit, just like the bible claimed.
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Originally posted by Suzianne"No True Scotsman" argument... nice.
Christians do the right thing, it's these "claimed" Christians, or evil men "posing" as Christians that are the problem. God does guide Christians. Exactly what would you have Him do about these evil men? Stop their hearts in their sleep? One reason evil exists is to weed out the weakest Christians. Another reason evil exists is to temper, or strengthen, Christians.