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Why the necessity to believe that Jesus is God, especially when Jesus never clearly stated that He was?
Does it matter if a person believes in God, AND believes in Jesus (the Son), but sees them as 2 distinct and different people?
Why the Trinity battle? Does a person's eternal destiny rest on this belief?
"Whoever believes in Him shall not perish"
Believes what?
(This issue is very confusing, and doesn't seem like something God had in mind)
@chaney3 saidWho is Jesus? Just a guy, what?
Why the necessity to believe that Jesus is God, especially when Jesus never clearly stated that He was?
Does it matter if a person believes in God, AND believes in Jesus (the Son), but sees them as 2 distinct and different people?
Why the Trinity battle? Does a person's eternal destiny rest on this belief?
"Whoever believes in Him shall not perish"
Believes what?
(This issue is very confusing, and doesn't seem like something God had in mind)
@kellyjay saidHe is God's son.
That means what? He is a demigod, a sub-God, a highten human; what does that mean?
And God is God.
Why is that bad?
Does someone's faith rely on the Trinity?
(Don't get me started on how Jesus grew up as a HUMAN male, and must have found women attractive......or he wouldn't have been human)
@pb1022 saidYour first sentence baffles me.
It would seem to me the Son of God would by necessity have to be God. What is the Son of God made of, if not what God is made of? Isn’t the Son of God part of God in the same way an earthly son is part of his father and mother but also unique from his father and mother?
It's a false assumption.
@chaney3 saidBut Jesus was also fully God while on earth - conceived by the Holy Spirit and He Himself said God the Father was in Him and He was in God the Father.
He is God's son.
And God is God.
Why is that bad?
Does someone's faith rely on the Trinity?
(Don't get me started on how Jesus grew up as a HUMAN male, and must have found women attractive......or he wouldn't have been human)
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@pb1022 saidI hear a lot of people talking about Jesus being the Son of God while denying His deity. If He isn't God, who and what is He? Will God create someone else to kill to justify another? A created being just to be slattered so other created beings could be justified, and that is somehow okay, no sweat off God's nose?
It would seem to me the Son of God would by necessity have to be God. What is the Son of God made of, if not what God is made of? Isn’t the Son of God part of God in the same way an earthly son is part of his father and mother but also unique from his father and mother?
The whole point of Jesus laying down His life for us was that as God, sinless, He took upon Himself our sins, took part in our humanity to justify us. Anyone less would be an abomination.
@kellyjay saidI believe Jesus Christ was/is God. I think the Holy Bible is pretty clear on that - both Old Testament (Messianic prophecies) and New Testament.
I hear a lot of people talking about Jesus being the Son of God while denying His deity. If He isn't God, who and what is He? Will God create someone else to kill to justify another? A created being just to be slattered so other created beings could be justified, and that is somehow okay, no sweat off God's nose?
The whole point of Jesus laying down His life for us was th ...[text shortened]... upon Himself our sins, took part in our humanity to justify us. Anyone less would be an abomination.
@chaney3 saidGod is Spirit, unlike us, isn't bound by physical limitations. We are living souls within bodies; three of us would have three bodies. Father, Son, Holy Spirit are three yet One God, in nature, in a total loving commitment to each other entirely in every way.
Yes.....but we are 3 separate people.
Completely separate.
Even if I say we are "one".....it's in spirit, but still separate.