The importance of the Trinity

@suzianne said
Bingo.

First, may I ask how you would like me to address you?

And second, now that Netflix has paid for a flood of South Korean shows, I have noticed that "bingo" has been used two or three times so far, even when I'm watching the subbed not dubbed versions. Interesting!

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Thank you, shining spokesman for Christ.

@galveston75 said
But they are not following the oldest writings. They are copies of other bibles and were influenced by beliefs that had the influence of the trinity.
Jesus warned this would happen and what better way to make the needed little change to make the trinity a believable thing. That is the problem.........

So did you really read my post or just doing the usual reaction? ...[text shortened]... you do, show me proof that the"A" is not found in something older then what is in my post??????????

When an abnormality shows up, it shows up next to all of the other copies and translations out there. They are following all of the text found; this is also one of the main reasons I trust the scriptures. You cannot have the only copy of the proper text, and it is in stark contrast to the thousands of others from all walks of life, other time periods when they were written in; if I spoke other languages, I'm sure your version would be in contrast to those too.

This is also how they knew what they had before computers were accurate; the text matched all of the other copies in print. Changing the scripture to make it fit what you want it to say is very wrong; there were many things in the scriptures those that followed wanted to write out of it because they didn't understand it but didn't. Jesus having water and blood flow out of him, once stabbed Him with the spear no one at the time understood the science behind that, but they stayed true to the word, thank God, and didn't write out or put in something that made what they thought it should say part of the text. You can go back and read old commentaries, and see what people had thought since the beginning.

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Who calls what? You ridiculous, proud, linguistic contraption, you.

Not to pull a Brother Matthias on your skanky English ass, but I imagine many of us here are more patient than you can imagine.

Better check your generators before you try to get some shuteye.

Nighty-nite! 😉

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Well dont add to it then. Jesus did not say he is the Father.

@kellyjay said
Give you supporting Bible references; really, you are asking for references who refuses to give supporting references for your version of Jesus' gospel.

Why don't you produce your references for the things you claim.

Just say like a man, that there are no supporting references for your church gospel. That would suffice.

I claim that Jesus was created by God the same way that the angels were created by God. The same way Adam and Eve were created by God. The same way Melchizedek was created by God, who had neither earthly father or mother This is not the creation at the beginning of this world but long before that. YEC are extremely narrowminded and they see the universe as being 6000 yrs old and that makes them handicapped and blind to the fact that there was life long before the creation of this world.

The mere use of the words Father and Son means that one created the other. The Son was born of the Father, the Son came from the Father, and hence the word begotten. There was therefore a time when the Son of God did not exist. I dont need to prove that or provide references. The bible use the words Father and Son. You need me to prove what Father and Son means?

@rajk999 said
Well dont add to it then. Jesus did not say he is the Father.

Who do you say that you are?

@rajk999 said
Just say like a man, that there are no supporting references for your church gospel. That would suffice.

I claim that Jesus was created by God the same way that the angels were created by God. The same way Adam and Eve were created by God. The same way Melchizedek was created by God, who had neither earthly father or mother This is not the creation at the beginning of th ...[text shortened]... references. The bible use the words Father and Son. You need me to prove what Father and Son means?

I'm not going to concern myself with the demands of someone who refuses to do what he is asking for when he refuses to do the very thing he now demands. I've given more than a few scriptures backing up what I have been saying; go back and read; I believe that is another one of your cop-out responses as well.

@kellyjay said
I'm not going to concern myself with the demands of someone who refuses to do what he is asking for when he refuses to do the very thing he now demands. I've given more than a few scriptures backing up what I have been saying; go back and read; I believe that is another one of your cop-out responses as well.

Well that is an outright lie. You said .. God didn't create Jesus; Jesus isn't a created being. Jesus is begotten, He became a man, but before that, there was never a time He wasn't.

Your very sentence is contradictory.

A Father begets the Son, therefore Jesus is begotten therefore created by the Father or comes out of the Father, meaning that the Son was not always there.

There are no bible references to support your self-contradictory statement.

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I'm kind of post-Taoist, in case you haven't noticed.

From one POV, the thrashing about of your little dust devil is your business.

From other POVs it's everybody else's business.

From another POV, you are not just a little dust devil thrashing about.

If you really want to upset me, then you should try to upset the One behind the scenes first.

@rajk999 said
Well that is an outright lie. You said .. God didn't create Jesus; Jesus isn't a created being. Jesus is begotten, He became a man, but before that, there was never a time He wasn't.

Your very sentence is contradictory.

A Father begets the Son, therefore Jesus is begotten therefore created by the Father or comes out of the Father, meaning that the Son was not always there.

There are no bible references to support your self-contradictory statement.

You should read the first chapter of John.

@kellyjay said
You should read the first chapter of John.

You should shut up when your church doctrine is proven to be nonsense.. The first chapter of John never says that Jesus was not created. It says that Jesus was with God from the beginning. John is speaking of the beginning of the world, and not the beginning of time. Prior to this world The Father and the Son had existed, and it was during this time the FATHER BEGOT A SON, That means that Jesus was created prior to the creation of the world, just like the angels and all the other heavenly beings were. John speaks of events at the creation of this world. You YEC church fools think that the universe is 6,000 yrs old... and that is why your thinking and your doctrine, on this matter is flawed.