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    01 Jun '18 22:541 edit
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I think my OP was pretty clear that when I try personally to answer the question "who do you say I am", asked by Jesus, that my reply is:

    Jesus, you sorta didn't make it very clear at all who you are.

    And what about the name Emmanuel?
    I asked you about what John wrote. You seem to be avoiding my question.
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    01 Jun '18 22:58
    Originally posted by @eladar
    I asked you about what John wrote. You seem to be avoiding my question.
    John 1:1 is not enough to say that Jesus is God.

    It doesn't even mention Jesus by name, it's an assumption and hardly convincing.
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    01 Jun '18 23:02
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    John 1:1 is not enough to say that Jesus is God.

    It doesn't even mention Jesus by name, it's an assumption and hardly convincing.
    I did not say 1:1. I said 1 Jogn chapter 1. Why stop at verse 1?


    Do you agree that 1 John 1's Word of God is a person?
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    01 Jun '18 23:08
    Originally posted by @eladar
    I did not say 1:1. I said 1 Jogn chapter 1. Why stop at verse 1?


    Do you agree that 1 John 1's Word of God is a person?
    Start over.

    Who do YOU say Jesus is?

    Not what John says, or what 1John say.

    Note: before Jesus asked His disciples who they thought He was, He first asked them who "others" thought He was....and the "others" seemed clueless and wrong with their GUESSES.
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    01 Jun '18 23:10
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    John 1:1 is not enough to say that Jesus is God.

    It doesn't even mention Jesus by name, it's an assumption and hardly convincing.
    Read verse 14.
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    01 Jun '18 23:15
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Start over.

    Who do YOU say Jesus is?

    Not what John says, or what 1John say.

    Note: before Jesus asked His disciples who they thought He was, He first asked them who "others" thought He was....and the "others" seemed clueless and wrong with their GUESSES.
    Again, what was the big deal with the way Jesus responded?

    Why did only Peter figure it out and why did he tell Peter and the rest of his followers not to utter a word of it to anyone?

    What was the big deal?
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    01 Jun '18 23:16
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Again, what was the big deal with the way Jesus responded?

    Why did only Peter figure it out and why did he tell Peter and the rest of his followers not to utter a word of it to anyone?

    What was the big deal?
    The big deal is this:

    Peter did NOT say that Jesus is God, and.....Jesus did NOT correct him.
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    01 Jun '18 23:18
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    The big deal is this:

    Peter did NOT say that Jesus is God, and.....Jesus did NOT correct him.
    So Jesus was afraid that people may not believe he was God?

    Again, what does the "Son of God" mean to you?

    And if it is nothing special, why the secrecy?
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    01 Jun '18 23:25
    Originally posted by @whodey
    So Jesus was afraid that people may not believe he was God?

    Again, what does the "Son of God" mean to you?

    And if it is nothing special, why the secrecy?
    I'm not sure what Son of God means, but it would seem that all human males are sons of God?? Right?
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    01 Jun '18 23:261 edit
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    The big deal is this:

    Peter did NOT say that Jesus is God, and.....Jesus did NOT correct him.
    Like usual, many Christians don't really care what Jesus actually said or didn't say in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. They relegate those words spoken by Jesus behind the words of others. This despite the fact that perhaps the most prevalent theme in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry was the importance of the words He was speaking during that time.
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    01 Jun '18 23:271 edit
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I'm not sure what Son of God means, but it would seem that all human males are sons of God?? Right?
    Jesus calls His followers to become sons of God as He was a son of God.

    Matthew 5
    9“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
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    01 Jun '18 23:461 edit
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    Jesus calls His followers to become sons of God as He was a son of God.

    Matthew 5
    9“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
    So that was the big secret he told his disciples, eh?

    John 3:16 New International Version (NIV)

    16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    What does the term "ONLY" mean to you?
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    01 Jun '18 23:52
    Originally posted by @whodey
    So that was the big secret he told his disciples, eh?

    John 3:16 New International Version (NIV)

    16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    What does the term "ONLY" mean to you?
    God gave his only begotten SON.
    Not God gave HIMSELF. ..

    Got it?
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    02 Jun '18 00:011 edit
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Start over.

    Who do YOU say Jesus is?

    Not what John says, or what 1John say.

    Note: before Jesus asked His disciples who they thought He was, He first asked them who "others" thought He was....and the "others" seemed clueless and wrong with their GUESSES.
    I asked you about Joh 1.


    I say Jesus is God who became man was sacrificed but has risen from the dead so that all who are God's will have eternal life.


    Now about John 1 the entire chapter.
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    02 Jun '18 00:02
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    God gave his only begotten SON.
    Not God gave HIMSELF. ..

    Got it?
    Genesis 22:8
    And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering:
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