Moral 'laws' do not have to be absolute to be effective, valuable, or true.
Didn't answer my question yet. What difference does it make what I do to you if there is no Ultimate Governor, no Ultimate Judge for me ?
You'll get over it if I do you dirt. I'm pretty sure. And if you don't? Well, it could be worse. It could be me.
No God - what difference does it make how we rip each other off ?
Morality is about how sentient beings interact with one another in such a way as to maximise the well-being of each other.
Yea, I notice that Josef Stalin thought pretty much the same way.
To whom will Josef Stalin be finally accountable in your preferred Godless universe ?
In a given situation with many discrete possible courses of action their may not be an absolute best course to which all others are inferior.
There are difficult problems in math.
There are difficult problems in morality also.
I quite agree that some moral problems are rather difficult to figure out.
the difference. This lead me all the more to believe that there is a perfect God ultimately warning us that we ALL need to be forgiven.
You see, difficult moral issues led some people to assume there could be no ultimate Right morality and therefore no ultimate good and righteous God. That is not my reaction to the problem of difficult moral situations.
My reaction is that all the more someone like Jesus Christ speaks the truth warning that everyone is going to come up short before God. And He has come that all who believe in Him may be justified in Him.
But if you argue that no perfect code written in human language could possible cover all the nuances of human situations, I agree. Too many of the final issues are of the heart, the innermost motive, the innermost inclination.
This makes Jesus Christ all the more persuasive to me as the testimony of a Perfect Man, the only one Perfect Man. So I should listen then to what Jesus Christ goes on to say.
"As the living Father sent Me and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me shall live because of Me." (John 6:57)
I need to take Him in. I need to receive Him in His form as spiritual food. I need to "eat" Him. I need to internalize this One who knows how to live by the Father's uncreated and perfect life. I need to "eat" Him because you are what you eat.
Or no means of telling if such a course exists. But the fact that such a course doesn't exist, or that its impossible to determine, doesn't mean we can't spot bad courses of action, or rate different courses of action as being better or worse than others.
There are situations in which no written code could tell you exactly what you should do. There is a Holy Spirit who is Jesus Christ in His pneumatic form who always can tell us how to abide in Him, and HE will do the thing right. Not only so in the action, that is, but in the inner motive, inclination, and thought life.
So Paul said that he only desired to be found in the living and available and experiential Christ - "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain ... be found in Him, not having my own righteousness which is out of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is out of God and based on faith."
You see the Law was not given primarily to keep, to the one and only theocratic nations of Israel. The Law was given to expose man's inescapable need for redemption from God.
Man has laws. Then he has to amend them, and amend them, and amend them some more. He has to add, and add, and add to cover the infinite variety and nuances of ethical situations. And also he has to amend them because in man's depravity he usually figures out a way to do evil regardless.
So the complaint of "But no perfect moral code" encourages rather than discourages me to seek the Savior's forgiveness and the Lord's indwelling Holy Spirit to live through.
And I will look at you other sentences perhaps in the next post.