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Originally posted by sonhouse
So which is worse, your god giving its ok for gays to exist or humans killing gays because of some biblical nonsense?
It is a very false dichotomy.
It is also a obtuse reading comprehension of the whole Bible.
And if there is no God in your nonsensical philosophy, then what difference does it make how I behave ?
Don't tell me that some noble natural selection will call me to give an account for my crimes. Its a nice idealistic thought.
But if your atheist philosophy is true, let's not kid ourselves. Like Adolf Eichmann the Nazi, we will all go jumping into our graves laughing about what we got away with in life.
No God - No real accountability and no final justice.
Your atheist total naturalism doesn't care about justice. It only cares for what will help the species survive. Truth takes the hindmost. Justice, what is that ?
I think a better way to live is following Christ who I believe is incorruptible, unconquerable, alive and can only enjoy universal vindication.
Originally posted by sonshipYou seem to have not understood the meaning of my post. Be that as it may, regarding Matthew 7:12, the points and questions that you avoided addressing were these:No surprise that you've once again avoided addressing the germane points and questions posed to you as you did with Matthew 7:12. It's a childish tactic to preserve your ill-conceived beliefs. Ask yourself why you prefer the darkness to the light.
When someone says I evaded a point, I usually have to go back and re-read the entire thre ...[text shortened]... overnment endorsement of political confirmation will give you that assurance that you are right.
Try looking to Jesus if you want guidance on this issue:
Matthew 7
12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
With that in mind, you should ask yourself what harm a homosexual couple in a loving, caring relationship does to anyone else. You should also ask yourself if you would have others coerce or otherwise force you out of your sexual orientation (in your case heterosexuality).
I was pointing out that you did not address the above. That means actually address the germane points raised above. You still have not done so.
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOneJaywill has no reason to be forced out of anything, his sexual practices are natural and approved by God. There is no provision made for homosexuality, married or otherwise, the practice stands condemned by scripture and nature and always will.
You seem to have not understood the meaning of my post. Be that as it may, regarding Matthew 7:12, the points and questions that you avoided addressing were these:
[quote]Try looking to Jesus if you want guidance on this issue:
Matthew 7
12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
...[text shortened]... above. That means actually address the germane points raised above. You still have not done so.
Originally posted by robbie carrobiewhat advice does the bible give to transsexuals? is getting the snip okay with god?
Jaywill has no reason to be forced out of anything, his sexual practices are natural and approved by God. There is no provision made for homosexuality, married or otherwise, the practice stands condemned by scripture and nature and always will.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieViews like that destroy lives.
no, they were created male and female and they should remain male and female.
People who's bodies and minds don't match up often commit suicide due to
the unhappiness at living in a body they despise.
You uncaring ignorant views are despicable and wrong.
They were not created they were born.
They were not designed they evolved.
And your god does not exist.
Originally posted by googlefudgehardly, unless of course you are willing to contend that we are not free moral agents responsible for our own actions, are you? no? well shad-up-a-yo face you namby pamby pandering weakling.
Views like that destroy lives.
People who's bodies and minds don't match up often commit suicide due to
the unhappiness at living in a body they despise.
You uncaring ignorant views are despicable and wrong.
They were not created they were born.
They were not designed they evolved.
And your god does not exist.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat is something you would never say to my face.
hardly, unless of course you are willing to contend that we are not free moral agents responsible for our own actions, are you? no? well shad-up-a-yo face you namby pamby pandering weakling.
You are the scum of the Earth and I will keep saying so.
You have a problem with that you are more than welcome to come get used
as a mop while I wipe the floor with you.
There is a common misconception that being liberal means being weak...
It really doesn't.
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Originally posted by googlefudgetell me why I am not scared, common misconceptions? you da man!
That is something you would never say to my face.
You are the scum of the Earth and I will keep saying so.
You have a problem with that you are more than welcome to come get used
as a mop while I wipe the floor with you.
There is a common misconception that being liberal means being weak...
It really doesn't.
Originally posted by stellspalfieThat humans were created male and female, yes, its in the book of Genesis setting out Gods standard. Some persons because of genetic imperfection may be an anomaly to nature but this is not a direct act of their own volition unlike those who choose to lacerate their body parts.
can you support this with scripture?
also, didnt god give us different chromosomes to differentiate gender? do you define male by having a penis?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd why in the hell shouldn't people be allowed to 'lacerate their own body parts' if they want to?
That humans were created male and female, yes, its in the book of Genesis setting out Gods standard. Some persons because of genetic imperfection may be an anomaly to nature but this is not a direct act of their own volition unlike those who choose to lacerate their body parts.
If it makes them happy who the hell are you to object?