Originally posted by FMFSlavery is not "endorsed."
Is slavery still permitted by your God figure?
Slavery of a man or woman TOWARDS God is taught.
I consider it a unspeakable honor that I could be a "slave of Christ Jesus" or
"servant of Christ Jesus."
That kind of slavery is endorsed.
Now to the question is slavery still permitted.
You should know your history. The abolitionists movements in Europe and in the US were largly fueled by Christian activists who strongly taught that God did not want slavery practiced. That is especially in the form of the Atlantic Slave trade.
The Quakers, Mennonites, and Methodists under John Wesley strongly opposed slavery. To be fair in the US South some Christian denominations had their own theologians saying that it was God's will that slaves WERE owned.
The slavers lost out and the abolotionists won in that social battle.
My opinion is that the abolitionists won because they more accurately reflected what was the will of God. And that truth eventually prevailed upon men's consciences.
And if this has tired anyone's reading so as to be too long of a comment, it has not said everything that could be discussed about the matter.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe issue is not 'Non-Hebrew treatment of slaves compared to Hebrew treatment of slaves'.
seeing that you will not answer any questions put to you because they demonstrate what a complete arrogant hypocrite you purport to be, I will, for the sake of any sincere person, produce the Bibles viewpoint on slavery, anyone wishing can come to their own conclusions may do so
[b]Does the Bible Condone Slavery?
LOVE of neighbour is one of ...[text shortened]... time. Then, all mankind will enjoy true freedom, Isaiah 65:21, 22.
source: Jehovahs Witnesses[/b]
Originally posted by FMFyou deserve to be called out for you ask questions of others but cannot answer anything in a straight manner when asked of you. You are wrong and you have been proved wrong, now suck it up bearded wonder and learn something about the Bible, God knows you need every scrap of scripture you can git!
In this case I seem to be "full of" comments, observations and questions that make you resort to personal remarks and refuse to address the substance of what I am saying.
Is slavery still permitted according to your version of God?
Originally posted by sonshipSo, although it was once permitted, it is no longer permitted, right? This is "change".
Slavery is not "endorsed."
Slavery of a man or woman TOWARDS God is taught.
I consider it a unspeakable honor that I could be a "slave of Christ Jesus" or
"servant of Christ Jesus."
That kind of slavery is endorsed.
Now to the question is slavery still permitted.
You should know your history. The abolitionists movements in Eu ...[text shortened]... long of a comment, it has not said everything that could be discussed about the matter.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThis post of yours is not an answer to the question: Is slavery still permitted according to your version of God?
you deserve to be called out for you ask questions of others but cannot answer anything in a straight manner when asked of you. You are wrong and you have been proved wrong, now suck it up bearded wonder and learn something about the Bible, God knows you need every scrap of scripture you can git!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe issue is galveston75's claim that "God's ways do not change and neither do his laws and principles change". In the case of slavery alone, it is clear that God's "law" and "principle" and "ways" have all changed.
yawn. the issue is not slavery at all, its whether God has changed, something you stated and cannot provide a shred of evidence for, suck it up!
Originally posted by FMFI have provided the Bibles point of view, you may come to your own conclusion. where has Gods laws changed, i cannot find a single chapter or verse that you have produced?
This post of yours is not an answer to the question: Is slavery still permitted according to your version of God?
Originally posted by FMFso you say, its a pity that you have produced not a shred of evidence other than your usual, 'because i say it has'.
The issue is galveston75's claim that [b]"God's ways do not change and neither do his laws and principles change". In the case of slavery alone, it is clear that God's "law" and "principle" and "ways" have all changed.[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOnce more. Is slavery still permitted according to your version of God? You appear to claim there has been no change. Slavery was once permitted. You appear not to contest this. Is it still permitted? If not, then there has been "change".
I have provided the Bibles point of view, you may come to your own conclusion. where has Gods laws changed, i cannot find a single chapter or verse that you have produced?
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Originally posted by FMFI have provided the Bibles point of view, you may come to your own conclusion. Your version of slavery and our version of slavery are not one and the same, you got that.
Once more. Is slavery still permitted according to your version of God? You appear to claim there has been no change. Slavery was once permitted. You appear not to contest this. Is it still permitted? If not, then there has been "change".
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIs the version of slavery portrayed and permitted by your version of God in the OT still permitted? No. So it's changed.
I have provided the Bibles point of view, you may come to your own conclusion. Your version of slavery and our version of slavery are not one and the same, you got that.