1. Standard memberRBHILL
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    13 Jan '17 01:361 edit
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    You did not choose God?

    Do Christians not have freewill when it comes to their faith?
    After reading Romans chapter 3 and 9 I don't know if I can believe in free will anymore. And also God is the giver of faith.
    Hebrews 11:8 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called [by God]...
  2. Standard memberKellyJay
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    13 Jan '17 03:03
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    After reading Romans chapter 3 and 9 I don't know if I can believe in free will anymore. And also God is the giver of faith.
    Hebrews 11:8 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called [by God]...
    The struggle with sin binds us to it, curruption in our lives is so complete it requires God to set us free. We would never go to God on our own.

    So do we play a part, yes as we answer God's call we do. This removes from us the ability to think we can just live as we will than get right with God after we live a life of sin. If God call is on our lives we either answer or don't, the danger always being we are not promised tomorrow so we may reject God and never get called again.

    God is the author and finisher of our faith, when the call comes it is who so ever will. None of us will have an excuse before God!
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    13 Jan '17 04:07
    Originally posted by JakeChess
    The title says it all. Why should I (or anyone else) be a Christian over any other faith?

    I'm not shy to admit that I am distrustful of organized religion, maybe someone can change that by explaining why they believe, what goes into being "A Good Christian", etc.

    Provide historical evidence if you can, as I also believe the bible to be a work of fiction.
    If you don't believe the Bible, you can't be a Christian.
    Without the Bible, we would know nothing about our Heavenly Faather's providing of salvation from sin and death through Christ Jesus.
    A good start is to study the Bible objectively.
    People have many questions about the Bible but if you pray for God's Holy Spirit those questons can be answered.
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    13 Jan '17 04:34
    Originally posted by roigam
    If you don't believe the Bible, you can't be a Christian.
    Do you acknowledge the non-JW Christians as your Christian brothers and sisters and affirm your common Christian solidarity with them?
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    13 Jan '17 06:501 edit
    Originally posted by roigam
    If you don't believe the Bible, you can't be a Christian....
    I believe the Bible, so in your opinion does that classify my as a Christian?
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    14 Jan '17 22:401 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I'm being honest with him. If he wants to (act like) a Christian he misses the point. It is more than just behaving its accepting the Lord Jesus if he misses that no matter what he looks like or pretends to be he will miss the best and greatest part of being a Christian.
    You say he is pretending? He has left!!

    Still pretending?
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    14 Jan '17 22:45
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Either the Christians are right or they are not. If they are right then you will suffer in the afterlife if you do not become one. If they are wrong and one of the other religions is right then you'd have picked the wrong religion and would presumably have problems in the next world or your reincarnation in this one or whatever. The third possibility ...[text shortened]... f you do then you already are a Christian. Consequently I'm not sure your question is coherent.
    There are more options.
    Christianity could be 100% right (highly doubtful cause it cant even agree with itself), it could be half right, partially right, a historical anomoly,etc. , a bad joke , wrong , evil and controlling .... there are all sorts of manifestations
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    14 Jan '17 22:46
    Originally posted by Eladar
    There is no hope for humamity as a group, only hope for the few who reject humanity.
    Really? you gotta reject others to have hope to come together?
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    14 Jan '17 23:091 edit
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    Really? you gotta reject others to have hope to come together?
    Those who reject humanity choose Christ. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to have to explain it for you.
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    15 Jan '17 02:04
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    You say he is pretending? He has left!!

    Still pretending?
    You think he was serious?
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    15 Jan '17 04:27
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I believe the Bible, so in your opinion does that classify my as a Christian?
    I'm pretty sure you have to believe HIS 'Bible'.
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    15 Jan '17 04:39
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Those who reject humanity choose Christ. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to have to explain it for you.
    "Those who reject humanity choose Christ."

    I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to hear a Republican say this.

    No one who chooses Christ would "reject humanity".

    We are told to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

    You seem to think just loving ourselves is good enough.

    Your post explains a lot about why you hate people so much.

    Yet the message of Christ is love. I would reject your premise and say that if you reject humanity, then you reject Christ. There is a reason he called himself the Son of Man. Too bad you missed the entire point.
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    15 Jan '17 04:49
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    [b]"Those who reject humanity choose Christ."

    I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to hear a Republican say this.

    No one who chooses Christ would "reject humanity".

    We are told to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

    You seem to think just loving ourselves is good enough.

    Your post explains a lot about why you hate people so much.

    Yet ...[text shortened]... rist. There is a reason he called himself the Son of Man. Too bad you missed the entire point.[/b]
    You reject humanity by rejecting humanity's definition of truth and morality.

    Since liberals embrace man's view of morality I can see why you object.
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    15 Jan '17 05:48
    Originally posted by Eladar
    You reject humanity by rejecting humanity's definition of truth and morality.

    Since liberals embrace man's view of morality I can see why you object.
    "There you go again." -- Ronald Reagan
  15. Standard memberKellyJay
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    15 Jan '17 11:241 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    [b]"Those who reject humanity choose Christ."

    I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to hear a Republican say this.

    No one who chooses Christ would "reject humanity".

    We are told to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

    You seem to think just loving ourselves is good enough.

    Your post explains a lot about why you hate people so much.

    Yet ...[text shortened]... rist. There is a reason he called himself the Son of Man. Too bad you missed the entire point.[/b]
    "No one who chooses Christ would "reject humanity".

    We are told to love our neighbor as we love ourselves."

    I agree, what we do to the least of these we do to Him.
    We are to embrace not reject!
    Love not hate, even our enemies!
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