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The WAC stinks you must be smoking crack to compare it to the big 10

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Ok, just sent a letter on the reasons why to our local sports columnist who also writes for SI, but....

This is all moot this year. The Ducks will win the NC.

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Originally posted by Badwater
Ok, just sent a letter on the reasons why to our local sports columnist who also writes for SI, but....

This is all moot this year. The Ducks will win the NC.
I wish they would. The trouble with that is that the SEC has owned college football for years now. In fact, how many NCG's have they run off now in a row? I've lost count.

All I can say is, good luck with that!!

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Boise State's resume continues to be bolstered as it looks more and more likely that Virginia Tech (who the Broncos beat) will win the ACC.

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Boise St. will never make it to the big game. The BCS system is so stupid. A 1 loss Alabama will leapfrog Boise St.? Need the playoff, because stacking the system against the AQs is not just unfair from a just perspective, but criminal from a monetary perspective.

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I for one do not think one should base decisions on just losses. I think a team should be rated on the teams they've defeated, then take into consideration how good a team they've lost.

Has Boise State played a team that's as good as South Carolina? Has Boise State defeated a team as good as Iowa or OSU? Has Boise State defeated a team as good as Oregon or Stanford?


If they don't defeat a team as good as the teams the other teams lost to, then how can you say Boise State wouldn't have lost to those teams too?

Play-off fixes all problems. To win a NC in a 16 team play off, a team will have to defeat 3 very good teams to get into the NC game. If you win the NC, you will have either defeated or defeated teams that defeated the top 15 teams in the nation. No hiding in a play off.

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Wins and losses are how every other sports determines what is the better team. Wins and losses are the only criteria to take into consideration. The rest is crap. May the best team win. Period.

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Originally posted by Eladar

Play-off fixes all problems. To win a NC in a 16 team play off, a team will have to defeat 3 very good teams to get into the NC game. If you win the NC, you will have either defeated or defeated teams that defeated the top 15 teams in the nation. No hiding in a play off.
Exactly. I don't think we'll ever see a 16 game playoff, though. 4 or 8 teams is probably more realistic.

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Originally posted by Badwater
Wins and losses are how every other sports determines what is the better team. Wins and losses are the only criteria to take into consideration. The rest is crap. May the best team win. Period.
I guess most people are idiots. Anyone with half a brain should understand that you can't just look at wins and losses. A perfect record against weak teams just means you are better than the weak teams you played.

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Originally posted by Eladar
I guess most people are idiots. Anyone with half a brain should understand that you can't just look at wins and losses. A perfect record against weak teams just means you are better than the weak teams you played.
Boise State beat Virginia Tech which is leading the ACC. TCU smoked Baylor which is on top of one of the divisions in the Big12. Both beat Oregon State a pretty good PAC-10 team.

The strength of conferences and teams change over time; a claim that a schedule is "weak" can be a pretty subjective one these days.

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Subjective views of which conference is better than another (even though they never go head to head) is the reason why we need a play off.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Subjective views of which conference is better than another (even though they never go head to head) is the reason why we need a play off.
I agree with a playoff, but I'd make it the 6 BCS conference winners and two mid-majors and/or independents. I don't like the idea of a team finishing second or third in a conference but still getting a chance at the title (this ain't basketball).

Big day for the mid-major contenders; Boise and TCU score impressive wins over expected tough competition. And Alabama loses, so the chance of any one loss BCS conference team leapfrogging them drops considerably. If Auburn and Oregon both don't win out, I think we'll see a mid-major in the BCS title game (assuming they win a couple of reasonably tough games: TCU against San Diego St. and Boise against Nevada).

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Bully for you if you don't like the chance of teams winning a championship who do not win their conference. All you are doing with your point of view is rewarding teams for playing in weak conferences.

But that's OK.

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I'd prefer absolutely, to turn back the clock - Big Ten in Big Ten v Pac Ten, Orange gets the Big 12 v an at large, Sugar is SEC v at large.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Bully for you if you don't like the chance of teams winning a championship who do not win their conference. All you are doing with your point of view is rewarding teams for playing in weak conferences.

But that's OK.
You seem to want to reward teams for losing their conferences.

Supposedly "strong" i.e. BCS conferences would get automatic bids; supposedly "weak" i.e. non-BCS conferences wouldn't. If the "weak" conference champions couldn't compete, they'd be eliminated in the first i.e. Quarter Final round. I don't see anything particularly unfair in that.

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