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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ocasio-cortez-defends-comparing-migrant-detention-centers-to-concentration-camps/ar-AAD4lDl

    Dims like AOC insist that the detention centers for illegals are like concentration camps.

    Yeah, because there were hordes of jews trying to sneak into Germany in the 1930's, plus all the gypsies, gays, and political traitors that demanded to be locked up and exterminated....

    Even if she is acting, you know the average Dim is at least as stupid as she appears to be. Many are far dumber.
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    @whodey said
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ocasio-cortez-defends-comparing-migrant-detention-centers-to-concentration-camps/ar-AAD4lDl

    Dims like AOC insist that the detention centers for illegals are like concentration camps.

    Yeah, because there were hordes of jews trying to sneak into Germany in the 1930's, plus all the gypsies, gays, and political traitors that demanded to ...[text shortened]... is acting, you know the average Dim is at least as stupid as she appears to be. Many are far dumber.
    It's an offensive comparison and it's particularly alarming that certain segments of the Jewish population support blindly support the Democratic party when it spits in their face.
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    @quackquack said
    It's an offensive comparison and it's particularly alarming that certain segments of the Jewish population support blindly support the Democratic party when it spits in their face.
    How, pray tell, is truthfully saying what we have built on the border are "concentration camps" "spit in the face" of Jews? Would saying that the internment camps built for the Japanese in the US during WWII were "concentration camps" "spit in their face", too?
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    21 Jun '19 14:191 edit
    I was just about to make the same thread and was thinking who will beat me to the punch.

    Yes, they are concentration camps, yes AOC was right, yes historians and holocaust scholars agree with her that concentration camps don't need to have gas chambers for them to be concentration camps, no, AOC didn't mentioned any nazis and didn't compare them with nazi death camps, yes, Liz Cheney (the daughter of the freakin war criminal Dick Cheney) and Chuck Todd are imbeciles and scumbags and hypocrites for complaining about AOC's comparison but not the concentration camps themselves.
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    SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – The Trump administration argued in front of a Ninth Circuit panel Tuesday that the government is not required to give soap or toothbrushes to children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border and can have them sleep on concrete floors in frigid, overcrowded cells, despite a settlement agreement that requires detainees be kept in “safe and sanitary” facilities.

    https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-tell-9th-circuit-detained-kids-safe-and-sanitary-without-soap/
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    The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines a concentration camp as, "a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard."

    Many argue that this definition matches the detention centers currently set up on the southern border.

    "Why are they called concentration camps? Well, to state the obvious, it's because large numbers of people are 'concentrated' in camps. A better question is, why don't we just call them prisons? We don't say 'prisons' because prisons are a part of the formal legal system," Lester Andrist, a sociologist who has studied indefinite detention, tweeted.

    https://www.newsweek.com/concentration-camps-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-trump-border-1444843?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter
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    21 Jun '19 14:36
    @whodey said
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ocasio-cortez-defends-comparing-migrant-detention-centers-to-concentration-camps/ar-AAD4lDl

    Dims like AOC insist that the detention centers for illegals are like concentration camps.

    Yeah, because there were hordes of jews trying to sneak into Germany in the 1930's, plus all the gypsies, gays, and political traitors that demanded to ...[text shortened]... is acting, you know the average Dim is at least as stupid as she appears to be. Many are far dumber.
    You’re thinking of the extermination camps.

    Concentration camps didn’t have gas chambers.
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    @shavixmir said
    You’re thinking of the extermination camps.

    Concentration camps didn’t have gas chambers.
    Thinking is not required to regurgitate right wing talking points.
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    @quackquack said
    It's an offensive comparison and it's particularly alarming that certain segments of the Jewish population support blindly support the Democratic party when it spits in their face.
    It is rather offensive to the victims of past persecution to excuse the Trump administration's concentration camps and to continue to support the human right violations taking place therein.
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    @no1marauder said
    Thinking is not required to regurgitate right wing talking points.
    Oozing then?
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    @no1marauder said
    How, pray tell, is truthfully saying what we have built on the border are "concentration camps" "spit in the face" of Jews? Would saying that the internment camps built for the Japanese in the US during WWII were "concentration camps" "spit in their face", too?
    For the benefit of any moron (including yourself) I'll explain how calling a border camp a concentration camp trivializes the experience of the Jews
    (1) Jewish concentration camp had gas chambers and the Nazis killed 6 million Jews. There is nothing in American history that is anything close to this.
    (2) People who are hear illegally are accused of a crime and need to placed somewhere. Jewish people weren't accused of intentionally ignoring a country borders.
    So yeah I think ignoring the difference between the gas chambers for ones citizens and a place where you detain people who illegally enter your country is inaccurate and offensive.
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    @quackquack said
    For the benefit of any moron (including yourself) I'll explain how calling a border camp a concentration camp trivializes the experience of the Jews
    (1) Jewish concentration camp had gas chambers and the Nazis killed 6 million Jews. There is nothing in American history that is anything close to this.
    (2) People who are hear illegally are accused of a crime and need to ...[text shortened]... ns and a place where you detain people who illegally enter your country is inaccurate and offensive.
    Jews during the Nazis weren't the first to be placed in "concentration camps" nor were they the last. AOC's characterization is correct as the dictionary definition shows. No mention was made of Nazis, so this is just another right wing propaganda strategy lacking (as usual) in honesty.

    That you automatically resort to petty insults when your intellectual bluff is called reflects rather badly on you, not anybody else.

    Most of the people being placed in these concentration camps are asylum seekers and it is perfectly legal to seek asylum in the US.
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    Jewish historian Anna-Lind Guzik correctly points out:

    "Applying the term “concentration camp” to the indefinite detention without trial of thousands of civilians in inhumane conditions — under armed guard and without adequate provisions or medical care — is not just appropriate, it’s necessary. Invoking the word does not demean the memory of the Holocaust. Instead, the lessons of the Holocaust will be lost if we refuse to engage with them."

    And mentions the typical right wing hypocrisy:

    If conservatives truly think that “concentration camp” is limited to Nazi death camps, where was the outrage when the Trump administration employed it to (correctly) describe the mass detention of Uighurs in Xinjiang?

    https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/6/20/18693058/aoc-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-concentration-camps-immigration-border
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    @no1marauder said
    Jewish historian Anna-Lind Guzik correctly points out:

    "Applying the term “concentration camp” to the indefinite detention without trial of thousands of civilians in inhumane conditions — under armed guard and without adequate provisions or medical care — is not just appropriate, it’s necessary. Invoking the word does not demean the memory of the Holocaust. Instead, th ...[text shortened]... /first-person/2019/6/20/18693058/aoc-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-concentration-camps-immigration-border
    By your logic every prison cell in the US should be called a concentration camp.

    It is also disingenuous to pretend that the reference was not made to conjure thoughts of Nazi Germany.

    But then again, the disingenuous is the very definition of what it means to be a radical extremist on the Left.

    At the end of the day though, they still come by the millions.

    Why if treated so poorly as you purport?
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    @whodey said
    By your logic every prison cell in the US should be called a concentration camp.

    It is also disingenuous to pretend that the reference was not made to conjure thoughts of Nazi Germany.

    But then again, the disingenuous is the very definition of what it means to be a radical extremist on the Left.

    At the end of the day though, they still come by the millions.

    Why if treated so poorly as you purport?
    A prison is for people who are either charged with crimes and awaiting trial or already convicted of a crime and serving a sentence. People in the Trump concentration camps are neither.

    Considering how your political philosophy seems completely based on telling lies to the People, your observations are laughably hypocritical.

    If you really don't know why these people are fleeing the conditions in their homes countries, perhaps you should educate yourself before supporting their imprisonment in a concentration camp and eventual deportation.
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