@averagejoe1 saidEveryone despises lawyers— until he needs one.
75% of all the lawyers, in the world, are in the USA. Too many, so some see a better way to make a living, esp with our backgrounds. Thats me.
@wildgrass saidand partly about people dying because of liberal policies.
well, you claim not to know what you're talking about, but also that you do know what's the best energy source.
there's no need to take every acute instance of power outages and make it political. Ted Cruz is eating crow today. We're phasing out coal. it's partly about the environment, partly about diversification, partly looking to the future, partly creating jobs and innovating new technology.
it's ok. the libs aren't winning.
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@mott-the-hoople saidDid you know that solar and wind power work in Antartica?
and partly about people dying because of liberal policies.
But right. It's the libs fault. Are we going with the story that the independently run, deregulated mess of a Texas power grid failed miserably because of a federal-level proposal of a Green New Deal boogeyman that has never been voted on, isn't supported by many liberals, and isn't even close to being an actual thing?
If Texas followed regulations on wind turbines they would not have frozen wind turbines. They opted out to save money.
@averagejoe1 saidNews flash, Joe. The governments already involved. $600 billion in federal subsidies direct-injection to fossil fuels. As oil and coal become harder to find, that number is going to increase to keep prices down.
I relent, I agree with Kev, Zah, Wildgrass, et al, quit fossils. Of course. I lose this one, it was a good banter for everyone. It is inarguable to have no burning. Double all gas tax and invent renewables. (The private sector, that is)
I would vote against that, however, if the government got involved, ...you know, add pork, college tuition etc to the bill for car ...[text shortened]... overment. I will gladly pay the tax. Please let us keep our airplanes, how you gonna handle that???
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@wildgrass saidThere is ONE working wind turbine in Antartica, and it is backed up by diesel.
Did you know that solar and wind power work in Antartica?
But right. It's the libs fault. Are we going with the story that the independently run, deregulated mess of a Texas power grid failed miserably because of a federal-level proposal of a Green New Deal boogeyman that has never been voted on, isn't supported by many liberals, and isn't even close to being an actual t ...[text shortened]... regulations on wind turbines they would not have frozen wind turbines. They opted out to save money.
Your ignorance is fueled by believing everything your liberal media feeds you. Makes you look foolish.
“ The turbine at Mawson is a variable-speed, 300 kW machine, mounted on a steel tower. A computerised power-house management system is vital to the efficient operation of the wind farm. This optimises the instantaneous wind resource and diesel generator outputs to the station load.
When the wind resource exceeds around 40% of the station load, short-term energy storage systems (such as fly-wheels, batteries or hydrogen powered fuel cells) are used to hold the station load while different combinations of wind and diesel are switched onto the grid”
https://www.antarctica.gov.au/antarctic-operations/stations/amenities-and-operations/renewable-energy/wind-power/
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@mott-the-hoople saidThe point obviously went over your head. Should we use the state of Iowa as another example? It was 20 degrees colder there yesterday but no seized windmills or prolonged blackouts. How about Alaska?
There is ONE working wind turbine in Antartica, and it is backed up by diesel.
Your ignorance is fueled by believing everything your liberal media feeds you. Makes you look foolish.
“ The turbine at Mawson is a variable-speed, 300 kW machine, mounted on a steel tower. A computerised power-house management system is vital to the efficient operati ...[text shortened]... ntarctica.gov.au/antarctic-operations/stations/amenities-and-operations/renewable-energy/wind-power/
In terms of your ignorance / foolish comment, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Texas chose to forego some modicum of regulations in order to produce cheaper power. They are now dealing with one consequence of that decision. It seems like the non-foolish narrative from their political leaders should be "well, we made that deal and now we're living with it". Instead, despite their longstanding efforts to avoid having to conform to federal regulatory standards, they appear to be taking the tack of blaming this problem somehow on Washington. It doesn't add up.
@wildgrass saidThe point I see is you are moving the goal posts from Antartica to Iowa.
The point obviously went over your head. Should we use the state of Iowa as another example? It was 20 degrees colder there yesterday but no seized windmills or prolonged blackouts. How about Alaska?
In terms of your ignorance / foolish comment, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Texas chose to forego some modicum of regulations in order to produce cheaper power. The ...[text shortened]... they appear to be taking the tack of blaming this problem somehow on Washington. It doesn't add up.
Iowa has their problems too.
DES MOINES, Iowa —
Keeping the heat on is becoming a concern as dangerously cold temperatures grip much of the country, including Iowa.
Some energy companies are implementing rolling power outages to keep up with the demand for power. Those companies calling for rolling outages are part of what's called the "Southwest Power Pool," a group of utilities across 14 states including Iowa. Much of western Iowa is serviced by the Southwest Power Pool.
https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-power-companies-warn-of-possible-rolling-power-outages/35513106
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@mott-the-hoople saidI kept the goal post at "windmills work in cold weather." Explain your comment about "people dying because of liberal policies" in the context of the article you shared about Iowa wind power.
The point I see is you are moving the goal posts from Antartica to Iowa.
Iowa has their problems too.
DES MOINES, Iowa —
Keeping the heat on is becoming a concern as dangerously cold temperatures grip much of the country, including Iowa.
Some energy companies are implementing rolling power outages to keep up with the demand for power. Those companies callin ...[text shortened]...
https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-power-companies-warn-of-possible-rolling-power-outages/35513106
Texas, run by conservatives for 20 years, chose a different path.
Deregulate, deregulate, deregulate. Something went horribly wrong? Blame libs.
@averagejoe1 saidWhat does Trump have to do with decisions made entirely in Texas ?????
#2. You could be right, but with all the hell that y'all put your president through, coupled with all that he DID do for this country while fighting you off, I am still quite impressed with the Republicans. His tireless energy could have been even stronger, to solve out energy problems, but maybe he was just about the hell spent.
Now I am going to bless my successes over these 4 years. What are you going to do today?
This is a Texas problem created by Texans .
Today the temp finally edged above freezing . I will watch the ice melt .
@wildgrass saidI am not going to break out the crayons and paper.
I'm keeping the goal post at "windmills work in cold weather." Explain your comment about "people dying because of liberal policies" in the context of the article you shared about Iowa wind power.
Texas, run by conservatives for 20 years, chose a different path.
Deregulate, deregulate, deregulate. Something went horribly wrong? Blame libs.
Right now you are at only ONE windmill in Antarctica and blackouts in Iowa. Care to try California?
@wildgrass saidWell, then, esp under a creepy misguided liberal administration, you will see the waste of that 600B go into an abyss!!!!! Losers all. No private enterprise. I wonder what your cell phones would like today if the government had decided to do what are you doing.
News flash, Joe. The governments already involved. $600 billion in federal subsidies direct-injection to fossil fuels. As oil and coal become harder to find, that number is going to increase to keep prices down.
I change my relenting! Keep oil. Use the 600B pay for college, as they immediately raise their tuitions!!
@averagejoe1 saidDuchess , there you are. Could you answer my question, about the woodsmen above? Ok
@AverageJoe1 Here is a real brainteaser for you, Duchess. Woodsman A lives by himself and kills and eats his food. Woodsman B lives by himself but eats the food killed by Woodsman A.
If you were taking a pop quiz in Societal Life, which of these 2 people would likely be a liberal, and which of these 2 people would likely be a conservative?
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@mott-the-hoople saidTexas. How are liberal policies killing people in Texas? I'd hope you don't need crayons for that, you wrote it pretty matter-of-factly.
I am not going to break out the crayons and paper.
Right now you are at only ONE windmill in Antarctica and blackouts in Iowa. Care to try California?
@averagejoe1 saidIt's an absurd amount of money right? Although I'm not so sure you're correct that the libs are the ones clamoring to keep that welfare program going. I wonder what fossil fuel energy would cost without it? Will we ever find out?
Well, then, esp under a creepy misguided liberal administration, you will see the waste of that 600B go into an abyss!!!!! Losers all. No private enterprise. I wonder what your cell phones would like today if the government had decided to do what are you doing.
I change my relenting! Keep oil. Use the 600B pay for college, as they immediately raise their tuitions!!