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    25 Mar '16 23:49
    Let's say that in a parallel world the Middle East is full of white racists who can't get along. In a war between the KKK and Neo-Nazis the KKK ends up on the losing end. Many women and children are being slaughtered in the KKK region of the Middle East.

    The Black nations of Europe decide to save all these suffering white racists. Of course the white racists leave their country to escape being slaughtered. Do you think the white racists would integrate into a repugnant black society? Do you think the white racists would act out in large numbers when they are outnumbered by the blacks?

    Would the white racists no longer hate the blacks simply because they are living in white societies within black countries? Would they no longer be racists simply because they were forced to move and become refugees? Would the white racists stop sympathizing with whites who strike out against black culture?

    Why would your answer about white racists be any different than Muslims?
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    25 Mar '16 23:511 edit
    The Sneetches, by Dr. Seuss
    Now, the Star-Bell Sneetches had bellies with stars.
    The Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars.
    Those stars weren’t so big. They were really so small.
    You might think such a thing wouldn’t matter at all.

    But, because they had stars, all the Star-Belly Sneetches
    Would brag, “We’re the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches.”
    With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they’d snort
    “We’ll have nothing to do with the Plain-Belly sort!”
    And, whenever they met some, when they were out walking,
    They’d hike right on past them without even talking.
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    25 Mar '16 23:57
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    The Sneetches, by Dr. Seuss
    Now, the Star-Bell Sneetches had bellies with stars.
    The Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars.
    Those stars weren’t so big. They were really so small.
    You might think such a thing wouldn’t matter at all.

    But, because they had stars, all the Star-Belly Sneetches
    Would brag, “We’re the best kind of Sneetch on th ...[text shortened]... they met some, when they were out walking,
    They’d hike right on past them without even talking.
    I might be wrong. You might not be a libtard after all! You might just be a retard.
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    26 Mar '16 00:433 edits
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Let's say that in a parallel world the Middle East is full of white racists who can't get along. In a war between the KKK and Neo-Nazis the KKK ends up on the losing end. Many women and children are being slaughtered in the KKK region of the Middle East.

    The Black nations of Europe decide to save all these suffering white racists. Of course the white ra ...[text shortened]... ainst black culture?

    Why would your answer about white racists be any different than Muslims?
    Check your categories, friend, you are assuming that all those in the Middle East who want to get to Europe can be categorized and analogized to white racism. This would need to be shown.

    This is not to say that ISIS is not training people to go to Europe and kill.
  5. Standard membervivify
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    26 Mar '16 02:43
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Let's say that in a parallel world the Middle East is full of white racists who can't get along. In a war between the KKK and Neo-Nazis the KKK ends up on the losing end. Many women and children are being slaughtered in the KKK region of the Middle East.

    The Black nations of Europe decide to save all these suffering white racists. Of course the white ra ...[text shortened]... ainst black culture?

    Why would your answer about white racists be any different than Muslims?
    As was already pointed out, your flaw is in thinking everyone from that region is racist; that's a racist thing to think.

    https://www.loc.gov/rr/european/imde/germchro.html

    In 1948, The Dispaced Persons Act made provisions for those in Europe to emigrate to the U.S. This included Germans, despite the fact that it was only three years since the war against Germany, lead by the Nazi party.

    1) Should the U.S. have assumed all Germans were evil and denied them entry?
    2) Have there been any Nazi uprisings that have threatened to destroy the U.S. as a result of allowing them to live here?
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    26 Mar '16 09:18
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Let's say that in a parallel world the Middle East is full of white racists who can't get along. In a war between the KKK and Neo-Nazis the KKK ends up on the losing end. Many women and children are being slaughtered in the KKK region of the Middle East.

    The Black nations of Europe decide to save all these suffering white racists. Of course the white ra ...[text shortened]... ainst black culture?

    Why would your answer about white racists be any different than Muslims?
    What in sweet Jesus are you blabbering on about?
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    26 Mar '16 09:23
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    What in sweet Jesus are you blabbering on about?
    With the elegance of a rabid dog attempting origami, Eladar is trying to show that us "libtards" (that is, everyone who is not a racist scumbag) are hypocrites by condemning racist scumbags but not refugees from the Middle East.
  8. Standard memberDeepThought
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    26 Mar '16 15:27
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    With the elegance of a rabid dog attempting origami, Eladar is trying to show that us "libtards" (that is, everyone who is not a racist scumbag) are hypocrites by condemning racist scumbags but not refugees from the Middle East.
    With the elegance of a rabid dog attempting origami...

    Great metaphor, I love it.
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    26 Mar '16 17:20
    Originally posted by JS357
    Check your categories, friend, you are assuming that all those in the Middle East who want to get to Europe can be categorized and analogized to white racism. This would need to be shown.

    This is not to say that ISIS is not training people to go to Europe and kill.
    Just look at the evidence: Do the Muslims who come to Europe enter European society or do they live in their own little enclaves?
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    26 Mar '16 17:21
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    With the elegance of a rabid dog attempting origami, Eladar is trying to show that us "libtards" (that is, everyone who is not a racist scumbag) are hypocrites by condemning racist scumbags but not refugees from the Middle East.
    What do you know, ignore the topic and attack the individual. Say it isn't so, not on an internet discussion board.
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    26 Mar '16 17:22
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    With the elegance of a rabid dog attempting origami...

    Great metaphor, I love it.
    And a high five from a libtard, say it isn't so.
  12. Standard memberfinnegan
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    28 Mar '16 13:30
    Originally posted by vivify
    As was already pointed out, your flaw is in thinking everyone from that region is racist; that's a racist thing to think.

    https://www.loc.gov/rr/european/imde/germchro.html

    In 1948, The Dispaced Persons Act made provisions for those in Europe to emigrate to the U.S. This included Germans, despite the fact that it was only three years since the war ag ...[text shortened]... zi uprisings that have threatened to destroy the U.S. as a result of allowing them to live here?
    Interesting analogy but it has its flaws alas since the Nazis posed no threat to the values of the USA at that time. Segregationist, racist, militarist and imperialist, the USA found plenty of space to accommodate unreconstructed Nazis in their security forces including dirty operations of the Cold War, as did other countries.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/revealed-how-the-cia-protected-nazi-murderers-2158071.html

    Similarly, France continued to accomodate its Nazi collaborators in its police and security services, reflected in the obscenities of their war against the population of Algeria and a police massacre of Algerians in Paris in 1962. The inability of so many Americans to connect current affairs with the very recent and still ongoing history of European imperialism in the Muslim world is depressing. The idea that the West is bravely defending its history of liberty, fraternity and equality is laughable.

    http://world.time.com/2012/10/18/algerias-ghosts-france-acknowledges-a-1961-police-massacre/

    There is of course no threat whatever to USA interests from the Muslim world, and the imperialist agenda driving US aggression in the Muslim world is entirely aggressive, not at all defensive. Unles of course you hold to the continuing view that the World is under an obligation to support rapacious Western economic requirements without reciprocal respect or economic equity.
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