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    So far, liberals have blamed Hillary Clinton’s loss on racism, sexism, xenophobia, James Comey, fake news, hacked voting machines and a Russian conspiracy (To quote Graham Parker, “Is this a Russian conspiracy, or is it just idiocy?&rdquo😉 Before they take a cue from “South Park” and blame Canada, they need to read this exhaustive report from Politico, hardly a right-wing source. It details how Hillary blew the race in Michigan and hence the election (and $1.2 billion of donors’ money) all by herself, because she was a terrible candidate who surrounded herself with bad advisors and ran an incompetent campaign.

    Her supporters can’t seem to fathom that when you nominate a candidate most Americans distrust; who piously preaches “public service” while getting wealthy off government connections; who told her core voters that she planned to put them out of work; who poured money into states she had no chance of winning while ignoring states she needed to win; who insulted millions of Americans and spent most of her speeches denigrating her opponent; who seemed, as one Ohio Democrat put it, to care more about transgender bathrooms than whether blue collar workers had jobs; and who was under FBI investigation for mishandling classified information – and whose excuse was that she wasn’t intentionally criminal, just incompetent – then she might legitimately lose.

    Throughout the campaign, I was mocked for predicting Trump would win, but I kept thinking, “How can they not see this coming?” She showed terrible judgment that led to disaster and is now trying to blame it on something from the Internet. Doesn’t anyone else see a familiar pattern in that?

    Sincerely,

    Mike Huckabee
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    16 Dec '16 02:13
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    So far, liberals have blamed Hillary Clinton’s loss on racism, sexism, xenophobia, James Comey, fake news, hacked voting machines and a Russian conspiracy (To quote Graham Parker, “Is this a Russian conspiracy, or is it just idiocy?&rdquo😉 Before they take a cue from “South Park” and blame Canada, they need to read this exhaustive report from Politico, hardly ...[text shortened]... the Internet. Doesn’t anyone else see a familiar pattern in that?

    Sincerely,

    Mike Huckabee
    Hey Mike.. You play chess?
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    16 Dec '16 02:21
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Hey Mike.. You play chess?
    I don't know, call him and ask. I just subscribe to his commentary.
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    16 Dec '16 02:36
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    I don't know, call him and ask. I just subscribe to his commentary.
    Sorry, I thought he was a member.
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    16 Dec '16 02:49
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Sorry, I thought he was a member.
    😀
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    16 Dec '16 03:54
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    So far, liberals have blamed Hillary Clinton’s loss on racism, sexism, xenophobia, James Comey, fake news, hacked voting machines and a Russian conspiracy (To quote Graham Parker, “Is this a Russian conspiracy, or is it just idiocy?&rdquo😉 Before they take a cue from “South Park” and blame Canada, they need to read this exhaustive report from Politico, hardly ...[text shortened]... the Internet. Doesn’t anyone else see a familiar pattern in that?

    Sincerely,

    Mike Huckabee
    There are two separate issues here. They are:

    a) Why Hillary lost
    b) Why Donald won

    People confuse the two as one and the same.

    Hillary lost because she's has a history of corruption, incessant lying, shady deals, and is in the pocket of Wall Street. Russia may have hacked her emails, but that doesn't excuse Hillary of having something to hide in the first place. This is possibly the most puzzling part of the election; if Hillary was so disliked by Democrats, how in the world did she beat Bernie, who was both respected (and loved) by many voters?

    Donald won partly due to multiple factors, one of them being an thoroughly disliked opponent in Hillary. And while that may explain why he beat Hillary, that doesn't excuse why he was chosen by Republicans in the first place, by a landslide. Racism is NOT the main reason why he beat Hillary; it is a big reason why he was chosen in the primaries. His racism was a breath of fresh air to many Republicans who just came right out and unabashedly expressed their racist thoughts. There's also the fact that Trump's biggest Republican rival (Cruz) was quite hated by his party. And of course, there's the fact that Trump would've lost were it not for the Electoral College.

    While it's easy to blast Reps for choosing a demonstrably unqualified, thin-skinned racist buffoon, let's not forget that Dems passed on an ideologically consistent, straight-talking candidate who spoke out against corruption, for a candidate who has flip-flopped her stances (like on gay marriage) with endless scandals. For a party that likes to feel morally and intellectual superior to Republicans, they sure didn't demonstrate it this election cycle.
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    16 Dec '16 04:31
    Originally posted by vivify
    There are two separate issues here. They are:

    a) Why Hillary lost
    b) Why Donald won

    People confuse the two as one and the same.

    Hillary lost because she's has a history of corruption, incessant lying, shady deals, and is in the pocket of Wall Street. Russia may have hacked her emails, but that doesn't excuse Hillary of having something to hide i ...[text shortened]... y and intellectual superior to Republicans, they sure didn't demonstrate it this election cycle.
    Bernie was screwed by the DNC
    http://nypost.com/2016/07/22/leaked-emails-show-how-democrats-screwed-sanders/
    Trump is not a racist. That's just the lefts narrative. Just keep repeating it long enough and it becomes fact after awhile.
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    16 Dec '16 04:422 edits
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Bernie was screwed by the DNC
    http://nypost.com/2016/07/22/leaked-emails-show-how-democrats-screwed-sanders/
    Trump is not a racist. That's just the lefts narrative. Just keep repeating it long enough and it becomes fact after awhile.
    Let's say Trump personally isn't racist; his rhetoric certainly is. When he spread false information about blacks killing each other that could've easily been verified, he is partaking in spreading racist rhetoric. Calling for a complete shutdown of Muslims entering the country and also proposing "extreme vetting" is incredibly bigoted and xenophobic. And when Trump refused to disavow support from the KKK---this isn't just someone's "narrative"; this is objective evidence of racism.
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    16 Dec '16 05:29
    Originally posted by vivify
    Let's say Trump personally isn't racist; his rhetoric certainly is. When he spread false information about blacks killing each other that could've easily been verified, he is partaking in spreading racist rhetoric. Calling for a complete shutdown of Muslims entering the country and also proposing "extreme vetting" is incredibly bigoted and xenophobic. And w ...[text shortened]... port from the KKK---this isn't just someone's "narrative"; this is objective evidence of racism.
    Blacks are killing each other. I don't see banning Muslims until they are properly vetted as racist, I see it as common sense.
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    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Trump is not a racist.
    We're at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.
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    16 Dec '16 10:09
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    So far, liberals have blamed Hillary Clinton’s loss on racism, sexism, xenophobia, James Comey, fake news, hacked voting machines and a Russian conspiracy (To quote Graham Parker, “Is this a Russian conspiracy, or is it just idiocy?&rdquo😉 Before they take a cue from “South Park” and blame Canada, they need to read this exhaustive report from Politico, hardly ...[text shortened]... the Internet. Doesn’t anyone else see a familiar pattern in that?

    Sincerely,

    Mike Huckabee
    The inconvenient truth
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    Viv,

    If Hillary lost, who won?

    Restated another way...

    In a US presidential election if the Democrat lost, who won?
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    16 Dec '16 12:511 edit
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Blacks are killing each other. I don't see banning Muslims until they are properly vetted as racist, I see it as common sense.
    "Blacks are killing each other"

    If I spread false information about how many Christian bombings, and Christian shootings of abortion clinics that grossly exaggerated their numbers (and could've easily been verified), wouldn't you suspect bias against Christianity from me?

    Here's the real question: why, then, did a grand wizard of the KKK publicly support Trump? Why did the KKK officially endorse him in the front page of their news paper? Why did Trump choose for his cabinet someone who said he's the "voice" of the alt-right, a movement full of racists and anti-Semites, who the KKK also released a statement about saying was an "excellent" choice?

    Clearly, racism was a component of Trump's candidacy, to prompt the KKK to support him to this degree.
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    16 Dec '16 13:041 edit
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    I see it as common sense.
    Racists always see their beliefs as common sense. It was also "common sense" that blacks shouldn't vote or hold public office.
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    16 Dec '16 15:08
    Originally posted by vivify
    "Blacks are killing each other"

    If I spread false information about how many Christian bombings, and Christian shootings of abortion clinics that grossly exaggerated their numbers (and could've easily been verified), wouldn't you suspect bias against Christianity from me?

    Here's the real question: why, then, did a grand wizard of the KKK publicly suppor ...[text shortened]... y, racism was a component of Trump's candidacy, to prompt the KKK to support him to this degree.
    The mainstream American media is, again, happily hitting the Black Lives Matter crack pipe in its pernicious pursuit of high ratings. These blood-lusting junkies were nowhere to be found when, with haunting predictability, Chicago news headline after headline detailed the carnage that has consumed dozens of communities in that city where black men kill each other with terrifying regularity.

    Where were these Black Lives Matter protesters after the slaying of Chicago’s little Tyshawn Lee, the 9-year-old lured into an alley and shot to death by a black man seeking gang-related vengeance against his father?

    Did little Tyshawn’s murder at the hands of a black gangster–an all too common occurrence in Chicago–not warrant wall-to-wall news coverage or Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson-style calls for “justice”?

    No.

    Why?

    Because the ugly truth behind #BlackLivesMatter is that black people killing other black people does nothing to advance its political power in the same way that one white cop killing a black criminal can.

    Despite the media’s overindulgence on white cops killing blacks, there is still a far-larger amount of black bodies being sent to morgues by black killers. Here’s five devastating facts, liberals can’t deny, that prove it.

    FACT 1. Over 1,400 more black Americans murdered other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968.

    According to FBI data, 4,906 black people murdered other blacks in 2010 and 2011. That is 1,460 more black Americans killed by other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968, according to the Tuskegee Institute.

    FACT 2. Black People (mostly men) commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime.

    In 2012, white males were 38 percent of the population and committed 4,582 murders. That same year, black males were just 6.6 percent of the population but committed a staggering 5,531 murders.

    In other words: black people–at just a fifth of the size–committed almost 1,000 more murders than their white counterparts.

    The figures above highlight a horrific truth that black racialists and white liberals routinely ignore: Lawbreaking black Americans, young black males particularly, put themselves in close proximity to (mostly white male) police officers at rates sometimes five to 10 times higher than whites. This is a recipe for disaster. Thusly….

    FACT 3. Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years.

    DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, black people committed 52% of homicides.

    In 2013, black criminals committed 38% of the murders. Whites accounted for just 31 percent.

    There are five times fewer black people than white people in America and, yet, they consistently carry out a larger share of the crimes? Given this rate, it’s no wonder that there aren’t more assistances where cops kill black criminals.

    FACT 4. Chicago’s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined.

    There have been almost as many deaths in one American city as there have been in the two major wars carried out by the U.S. military this century.

    Chicago’s death toll from 2001–November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.

    FACT 5. It would take cops 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of others black men in 2012 alone.

    University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012.

    Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/28/5-devastating-facts-black-black-crime/
    As far as the KKK, so what?
    Reagan was also endorsed by the KKK...his response?
    ”Those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant doctrines of hate they espouse.

    ”The politics of racial hatred and religious bigotry practiced by the Klan and others have no place in this country, and are destructive of the values for which America has always stood.”
    Trump has also rejected their endorsement.
    http://ijr.com/2016/02/548673-compare-how-donald-trump-and-ronald-reagan-responded-to-being-endorsed-by-white-supremacists/
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