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  1. 08 Aug '13 21:36
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/22/hud-targets-liberal-new-york-enclave-for-social-engineering/

    Although this is an article that is 2 years old, it is still news that is relatively new to us all. HUD is being used to study neighborhoods around the country and try to move poorer people into areas that are "well off". They started in New York, and will probably be moving to a location near you.

    So you don't like living in the hood? Too bad, the hood is now coming to you.
  2. 08 Aug '13 21:41 / 4 edits
    We have no problem in Scotland with local authorities building properties within and near private residential areas, it works well, the prospective tenants are screened as to suitability and largely stable families are allocated the much needed houses, but then again, we have a social conscience and dont resort to hysteria when it happens. Who knows someday you may get the balance between public and private interest when your paranoia subsides.
  3. 08 Aug '13 22:09
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    We have no problem in Scotland with local authorities building properties within and near private residential areas, it works well, the prospective tenants are screened as to suitability and largely stable families are allocated the much needed houses, but then again, we have a social conscience and dont resort to hysteria when it happens. Who knows ...[text shortened]... someday you may get the balance between public and private interest when your paranoia subsides.
    Yea, like Detroit.
  4. 08 Aug '13 22:33 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    Yea, like Detroit.
    I was thinking more like Norway and some other ethical and socially responsible governments, have you seen a psychiatrist, i am sure there are therapies that might help you deal with hysteria and paranoia. Who knows one day you may actually proffer a solution, just think!
  5. 08 Aug '13 22:40
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I was thinking more like Norway and some other ethical and socially responsible governments, have you seen a psychiatrist, i am sure there are therapies that might help you deal with hysteria and paranoia. Who knows one day you may actually proffer a solution, just think!
    So you favor forcing the poor into "rich" neighborhoods?

    Somehow I don't think I'm the one that needs a psychiatrist here. How will this help anyone?
  6. 08 Aug '13 23:24 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    So you favor forcing the poor into "rich" neighborhoods?

    Somehow I don't think I'm the one that needs a psychiatrist here. How will this help anyone?
    no further comment, i find attempting to reason with people who are quite beyond it, tiresome. We have no problem with private and public housing existing side by side, but then again, we are a little more egalitarian in our outlook.
  7. 08 Aug '13 23:41
    Originally posted by whodey
    So you favor forcing the poor into "rich" neighborhoods?

    Somehow I don't think I'm the one that needs a psychiatrist here. How will this help anyone?
    'forcing'!!!!! yeah like the poor would hate to be near good schools and good neighborhoods!!!
  8. 08 Aug '13 23:42
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    no further comment, i find attempting to reason with people who are quite beyond it, tiresome. We have no problem with private and public housing existing side by side, but then again, we are a little more egalitarian in our outlook.
    it pained me to give you a thumb, i hope you enjoyed it.
  9. 09 Aug '13 00:54
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    'forcing'!!!!! yeah like the poor would hate to be near good schools and good neighborhoods!!!
    In theory yes, but I've seen this before. Once they move in the immediate area around them goes down the tubes as businesses pull out one by one.
  10. 09 Aug '13 01:13
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    no further comment, i find attempting to reason with people who are quite beyond it, tiresome. We have no problem with private and public housing existing side by side, but then again, we are a little more egalitarian in our outlook.
    What about the residents or town or city who oppose it?

    Screw'em.

    I suppose might makes right. Accept it or die, there is no debating.
  11. 09 Aug '13 09:13
    Originally posted by whodey
    In theory yes, but I've seen this before. Once they move in the immediate area around them goes down the tubes as businesses pull out one by one.
    Yeah, I've seen the same thing happening in the Helsinki slums.

    Oh wait. There aren't any.
  12. 09 Aug '13 12:16 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Yeah, I've seen the same thing happening in the Helsinki slums.

    Oh wait. There aren't any.
    You people make me ill. You use your egalitarian philosophy in an arrogant manner by saying it worked in city "X", so it should then work everywhere else. In fact, you try to sell the US socialism by proudly displaying its successes in Northern Europe. However, you conveniently ignore Southern Europe who is now dragging Northern Europe into a financial abyss. You also ignore cities like Detroit in the US who have not elected a conservative in about half a century, but is now in ruins and bankrupt.

    To sum up, I can no longer take such arrogance and lack of accountability and introspection. If you are going to champion your successes and then try to force your view of the world down all of our throats, then at least take accountability for your failures instead of just continuing down the field like a swarm of locusts.
  13. 09 Aug '13 12:21
    Originally posted by whodey
    In theory yes, but I've seen this before. Once they move in the immediate area around them goes down the tubes as businesses pull out one by one.
    what exactly is the problem with poor people? are you getting poor people confused with criminals?
  14. 09 Aug '13 12:25 / 5 edits
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    what exactly is the problem with poor people? are you getting poor people confused with criminals?
    I dunno. The egalitarians in the US have been fighting poverty since the days of LBJ back in the 1960's. Funny thing is, there are now more poor people in the US some $15 trillion dollars later using tax payer money to fight poverty than there was back in LBJ's time. In fact, blacks under Reagan were better off financially and job wise than under Obama.

    I know, I know, it's all the GOP's fault and the Tea Party cause they are all racists and all secretly trying to undermine the all knowing all good egalitarian progressives like yourself. So what we need now are even more egalitarian policies that go unchallenged with no accountability for its success or failure.
  15. 09 Aug '13 12:31
    Here is a clue for all you egalitarians who have been in power for generations on end.

    Take ownership and accountability.

    Take it like a man.