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    21 Sep '16 08:04
    Here's why:
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    When asked to defend his temperament, Trump eloquently used the word "win" 9 times in 15 seconds
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    21 Sep '16 14:20
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    When asked to defend his temperament, Trump eloquently used the word "win" 9 times in 15 seconds
    when will you ever tell us something Hillary said? Does Hillary ever say anything?
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    21 Sep '16 14:56
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    when will you ever tell us something Hillary said? Does Hillary ever say anything?
    after she is elected president.
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    21 Sep '16 15:09
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    after she is elected president.
    Good luck carrying that water.
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    21 Sep '16 15:23
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Good luck carrying that water.
    you have a responsibility to elect the best option for president. then you have the responsibility to put pressure on the presidency to actually deliver what was promised and to elect a congress that has the best chance off actually accomplishing something.


    i don't care that hillary is bad, because trump is worse. you people took away bernie's chance to become president and you people elected trump as the republican nominee. the least you could do now is elect the politician that is more trustworthy and more competent .
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    21 Sep '16 15:38
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    you have a responsibility to elect the best option for president. then you have the responsibility to put pressure on the presidency to actually deliver what was promised and to elect a congress that has the best chance off actually accomplishing something.


    i don't care that hillary is bad, because trump is worse. you people took away bernie's chance ...[text shortened]... e least you could do now is elect the politician that is more trustworthy and more competent .
    Your posts make no sense whasoever and are contradictory. You say on this post that we need to put presure on the president to deliver what was promised, yet you do not have anything to say about Hillarys promises or statements until after she is elected? Kinda like the Obama Care bill. We have to pass it to find out what is in it? Shlongski, once again you put your ignorance on display.
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    21 Sep '16 16:06
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    you have a responsibility to elect the best option for president. then you have the responsibility to put pressure on the presidency to actually deliver what was promised and to elect a congress that has the best chance off actually accomplishing something.


    i don't care that hillary is bad, because trump is worse. you people took away bernie's chance ...[text shortened]... e least you could do now is elect the politician that is more trustworthy and more competent .
    That you can associate the word "trustworthy" in any way with Hillary Clinton is ludicrous.
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    21 Sep '16 16:09
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    Your posts make no sense whasoever and are contradictory. You say on this post that we need to put presure on the president to deliver what was promised, yet you do not have anything to say about Hillarys promises or statements until after she is elected? Kinda like the Obama Care bill. We have to pass it to find out what is in it? Shlongski, once again you put your ignorance on display.
    The only legitimate choices you have are not voting and voting Clinton. So the details of her policy proposals are sadly not that relevant. Perhaps if the Republicans field a serious candidate in 2020 we can consider their ideas and proposals.
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    21 Sep '16 16:19
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    The only legitimate choices you have are not voting and voting Clinton. So the details of her policy proposals are sadly not that relevant. Perhaps if the Republicans field a serious candidate in 2020 we can consider their ideas and proposals.
    Why is voting for Gary Johnson or even Jill Stein not a "legitimate" choice?
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    21 Sep '16 16:25
    Originally posted by sh76
    Why is voting for Gary Johnson or even Jill Stein not a "legitimate" choice?
    It's worse than not voting - not only does your vote make no difference but you legitimize a broken system by inflating turnout numbers, and you waste your time in the process.

    Of course, Clinton is, despite being a horrible candidate, a much better candidate than Gary "Gold Standard" Johnson or Jill "anti-vaxxing" Stein, which just shows you the state US politics is in, really.
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    21 Sep '16 16:47
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It's worse than not voting - not only does your vote make no difference but you legitimize a broken system by inflating turnout numbers, and you waste your time in the process.

    Of course, Clinton is, despite being a horrible candidate, a much better candidate than Gary "Gold Standard" Johnson or Jill "anti-vaxxing" Stein, which just shows you the state US politics is in, really.
    I've got to disagree with this. If someone either supports Green policies or wishes to vote for Stein out of dissatisfaction with the major parties then voting Green is the right thing to do. Your argument effectively insists that only a two party system can possibly be allowed. Insisting that because a system has faults one should not participate simply makes no sense, it's asking for a perverse result and will not bring about electoral reform.
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    21 Sep '16 19:55
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    when will you ever tell us something Hillary said? Does Hillary ever say anything?
    Hillary says Donald and those who vote for him are deplorable.

    Outside of that, no.
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    21 Sep '16 20:361 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It's worse than not voting - not only does your vote make no difference but you legitimize a broken system by inflating turnout numbers, and you waste your time in the process.

    Of course, Clinton is, despite being a horrible candidate, a much better candidate than Gary "Gold Standard" Johnson or Jill "anti-vaxxing" Stein, which just shows you the state US politics is in, really.
    When the main parties lose support to Johnson they start adjusting their position to try and retrieve them. Their principle is - power, getting it and holding it.
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    22 Sep '16 12:30
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    Your posts make no sense whasoever and are contradictory. You say on this post that we need to put presure on the president to deliver what was promised, yet you do not have anything to say about Hillarys promises or statements until after she is elected? Kinda like the Obama Care bill. We have to pass it to find out what is in it? Shlongski, once again you put your ignorance on display.
    "You say on this post that we need to put presure on the president to deliver what was promised, yet you do not have anything to say about Hillarys promises or statements until after she is elected?"

    yes. what is contradictory about that? because you are stuck with two candidates, you have to eliminate the absolute worst option of the two. you then have only one choice for president, unless you feel like you should go without one for 4 years, which i would totally support.



    "Kinda like the Obama Care bill"
    no connection to this election whatsoever

    "We have to pass it to find out what is in it?"
    in order for this retarded analogy to stand or at least wobble (rather than be the pile of manure that is now), you would have had to choose between obamacare and some witch doctors from the amazon as health care.
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