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    29 Aug '16 17:39
    It’s called the “tick tock” email, just recently released by Wikileaks. The email shows Hillary Clinton’s office outlining how Mrs. Clinton must be given full credit for what took place in Libya before and after the fall of the Gaddafi regime – a fall that resulted in a missing 1.5 billion dollars sent to Libya by Hillary Clinton, the subsequent death of four Americans, including the first U.S. ambassador to die on duty in more than thirty years, and thousands more deaths as Libya descended into anarchy.

    And it was all done after the House of Saud wished it so – the very same House of Saud that has “donated” millions to the Clinton Foundation and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

    image: http://217.218.67.233/photo/20160601/a6158930-38db-4d24-9a87-a75f3f28d673.jpg

    The above, led to this in Libya:

    Some two years after this altercation, Gadaffi was killed via an effort orchestrated and funded by the Obama government and the Hillary Clinton State Department. The grave truly was put in front of him – by Hillary Clinton.

    The House of Saud has since donated between $10 and 2$5 MILLION dollars to the Clinton Foundation and continues to donate to the Hillary Clinton campaign. A ZERO HEDGE article from earlier this summer indicated that the Saudis are as of now, funding approximately 20% of the entire Clinton campaign for president.

    The House of Saud wanted Gaddafi’s Libya gone.

    Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State makes that happen, creating the ISIS hell that is now Libya.‚Äč

    Tens of millions of dollars pour into the Clinton Foundation, and tens of millions more are now pouring into the Clinton campaign – from the House of Saud.
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    29 Aug '16 19:54
    You constantly harp on about the Clinton Foundation like it is Hillary's pocketbook.

    This is misrepresentation of the worst kind.
  3. Subscriberno1marauder
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    29 Aug '16 20:033 edits
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    You constantly harp on about the Clinton Foundation like it is Hillary's pocketbook.

    This is misrepresentation of the worst kind.
    But he presented overwhelming evidence; a photograph of Hillary Clinton with an Arab guy!

    What more do ya need?

    Not to bring up "plagiarism" but whodey's link is here: http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3463806/posts?page=36

    EDIT: Here's another one; you can actually read the "tick tock" memo there.http://eyesopenreport.com/wikileaks-outlines-how-hillary-clinton-did-bidding-of-her-saudi-masters-turned-libya-into-isis-hellhole/

    If you do and are familiar with right wing propaganda, it will come as no surprise that Saudi Arabia isn't even mentioned in it (at least the part on this anti-HC site). Instead, it is an attempt by an aide to give HC primary "credit" for Libyan policy which at the time of the memo (August 2011) seemed politically useful.
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    29 Aug '16 21:41
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    You constantly harp on about the Clinton Foundation like it is Hillary's pocketbook.

    This is misrepresentation of the worst kind.
    To say that those who give money to the Clinton Foundation carries no political weight is naïve to say the least.

    Believe what you will.
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    30 Aug '16 17:073 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    It’s called the “tick tock” email, just recently released by Wikileaks. The email shows Hillary Clinton’s office outlining how Mrs. Clinton must be given full credit for what took place in Libya before and after the fall of the Gaddafi regime – a fall that resulted in a missing 1.5 billion dollars sent to Libya by Hillary Clinton, the subsequent death of four ...[text shortened]... n, and tens of millions more are now pouring into the Clinton campaign – from the House of Saud.
    JMHO - The right wing has played the "email card" too many times. Unless something totally groundbreaking comes of these new emails very soon, the public will see these email leaks for what they really are, not as a sincere desire to get at the truth, but as a well planned attempt to damage Mrs. Clinton politically before the general election. We all know Mrs. Clinton made a bad mistake in using her private email in this manner, but releasing these emails at such carefully timed intervals smacks of a thinly veiled smear campaign.
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    30 Aug '16 18:15
    Originally posted by mchill
    JMHO - The right wing has played the "email card" too many times. Unless something totally groundbreaking comes of these new emails very soon, the public will see these email leaks for what they really are, not as a sincere desire to get at the truth, but as a well planned attempt to damage Mrs. Clinton politically before the general election. We all know Mrs ...[text shortened]... leasing these emails at such carefully timed intervals smacks of a thinly veiled smear campaign.
    If I offered you 100 emails of mine, how long do you think it would take you to go through each of them in order to make any conclusions about me or the other people involved?
    Your position presumes an immediate knowledge of the contents of tens of thousands of emails.
    It takes time to uncover all the skulduggery this career criminal has been part of, involved with.
    She is a literal cesspool of collusion.
    Tomorrow's historians will be dismayed that these two morally abject cretins were able to fool so many people for so long a time.
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    30 Aug '16 18:52
    Originally posted by mchill
    JMHO - The right wing has played the "email card" too many times. Unless something totally groundbreaking comes of these new emails very soon, the public will see these email leaks for what they really are, not as a sincere desire to get at the truth, but as a well planned attempt to damage Mrs. Clinton politically before the general election. We all know Mrs ...[text shortened]... leasing these emails at such carefully timed intervals smacks of a thinly veiled smear campaign.
    The email card? The fact that so much money and influence were in play means that there
    were/are so many things to talk about. I guess people who were in public service who are
    now worth 100 million plus is the norm to you? You may think they have gone to that well
    to often, but don't you want to know how to get rich off other people's money?
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    30 Aug '16 19:094 edits
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    If I offered you 100 emails of mine, how long do you think it would take you to go through each of them in order to make any conclusions about me or the other people involved?
    Your position presumes an immediate knowledge of the contents of tens of thousands of emails.
    It takes time to uncover all the skulduggery this career criminal has been part of, in ...[text shortened]... mayed that these two morally abject cretins were able to fool so many people for so long a time.
    It takes time to uncover all the skulduggery this career criminal has been part of, involved with.

    Multiple investigations, tens of thousands of man hours, and millions of taxpayer dollars have been spent over the last 2+ years on this issue. How much is enough? I don't deny Mrs. Clinton was wrong to use her private email in this manner, but no one is going to convince me that this never ending email chatter is not politically motivated. As far as Mrs. Clinton being a career criminal, I would add that honorable title to most of the members of Congress. The right wing's obsession with this email situation reminds me of Newt Gingrich pounding the pulpit, and roaring about a "crisis of morality in the white house" when Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky was discovered, all the while old Newt was carrying on multiple extra marital affairs of his own.
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    30 Aug '16 19:45
    Originally posted by whodey
    To say that those who give money to the Clinton Foundation carries no political weight is naïve to say the least.

    Believe what you will.
    Trump gave money to the Clinton Foundation too. They have a cozy past too. Hillary went to Trump's last wedding and Trump went to Hillary's daughter's wedding. There are pics to be seen and everything. Look into it.

    Trump is just insuring Hillary gets elected president b3ecause he is being blackmailed with his taxes. That is why his tax audit is being delayed until after the election. Why do you think Mike Pence was chosen as his running mate even though he voted for the Iraq war just like Hillary? Why do you think Trump will not mention how Bill Clinton repealed Glass Steagall despite his veto power? The fix is in!
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    30 Aug '16 19:52
    Originally posted by mchill
    It takes time to uncover all the skulduggery this career criminal has been part of, involved with.

    Multiple investigations, tens of thousands of man hours, and millions of taxpayer dollars have been spent over the last 2+ years on this issue. How much is enough? I don't deny Mrs. Clinton was wrong to use her private email in this manner, but no one is goin ...[text shortened]... as discovered, all the while old Newt was carrying on multiple extra marital affairs of his own.
    They are nearly all criminals in some degree or another.
    They certainly all lie and they def all profit.
    But the Clintons are a breed apart.
    The people who have lost their lives as a direct result of having some knowledge or involvement with the Clinton's "enterprises" is beyond the pale of even the combined malfeasance perpetrated by others in power.

    It's not even close.
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    30 Aug '16 22:041 edit
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    Trump gave money to the Clinton Foundation too. They have a cozy past too. Hillary went to Trump's last wedding and Trump went to Hillary's daughter's wedding. There are pics to be seen and everything. Look into it.

    Trump is just insuring Hillary gets elected president b3ecause he is being blackmailed with his taxes. That is why his tax audit is being ...[text shortened]... will not mention how Bill Clinton repealed Glass Steagall despite his veto power? The fix is in!
    Trump is a Hillary plant.

    Hillary fixed the primary, Hillary fixed the general election.

    There was never a chance she could lose.
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    31 Aug '16 00:53
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    Trump gave money to the Clinton Foundation too. They have a cozy past too. Hillary went to Trump's last wedding and Trump went to Hillary's daughter's wedding. There are pics to be seen and everything. Look into it.

    Trump is just insuring Hillary gets elected president b3ecause he is being blackmailed with his taxes. That is why his tax audit is being ...[text shortened]... will not mention how Bill Clinton repealed Glass Steagall despite his veto power? The fix is in!
    What if something goes wrong with their plan and Trump is elected?
  13. Standard memberlemon lime
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    31 Aug '16 00:571 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Trump is a Hillary plant.

    Hillary fixed the primary, Hillary fixed the general election.

    There was never a chance she could lose.
    Same question. If something goes wrong with the Hillary/Trump plan then what? Will Trump have to follow through with what he said he will do (to avoid suspicion) or will the Hillary/Trump team come up with a new plan?
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    01 Sep '16 19:52
    Originally posted by lemon lime
    What if something goes wrong with their plan and Trump is elected?
    Then the blackmailing will continue with the longest audit in American history.
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